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12/07/2015 8:59 am  #1


Rubio rises in New Hampshire

Rubio rises in New Hampshire

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262169-rubio-rises-in-new-hampshire

Marco Rubio is on the move in New Hampshire, edging up to second place in almost all recent polls of the crucial primary state.Of the five significant surveys undertaken in New Hampshire since the middle of last month — from WBUR, Fox News, CBS News, The Boston Globe and Public Policy Polling (PPP) — four put Rubio in second place. The one exception, the PPP poll, had him in third, two points behind Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas).

The Florida senator is still a long way behind Donald Trump, but if he can solidify his hold on second place, he could be positioned to surge in the two months before the state’s Feb. 9 primary. “All year, in primary polling, what has been striking to me is the gap between the number of voters who said they would actually choose Rubio, which tended to be low, and Rubio’s net favorability, which always tended to be high,” said Dante Scala, an associate professor of political science at the University of New Hampshire.“I think the net favorability was an encouraging sign and we are starting to see that play out now.”The improvement in Rubio’s overall support has been modest but steady.

He stands at around 12 percent support in the current RealClearPolitics (RCP) average of New Hampshire polls, as opposed to 7 percent two months ago and 10 percent last month. Those gains have come as top-tier rival Dr. Ben Carson has faded, and as Rubio’s mentor-turned-rival, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, continues to slide. Bush was at 7 percent support in the RCP New Hampshire average on Friday, compared to 9 percent exactly two months before. Rubio’s rise may have more to do with his prowess on the national stage than any specific resonance in New Hampshire.

According to data from New England Cable News (NECN), Rubio had visited the Granite State 16 times since his campaign began, as of Friday. That makes him a less frequent presence than Bush or Trump (20 visits apiece) or Ohio Gov. John Kasich (23 visits) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (33 visits). Some insiders argue Rubio will pay a price for this early neglect for retail politicking.“Rubio might be the alternative to Trump that [New Hampshire] voters will want, but it’s too soon to know that,” said a Republican strategist in the state who is not working for any rival candidate but who wished to remain anonymous. “He has still spent less time here — a lot less time — than virtually any other candidate, with the exceptions of Carson, [former Arkansas Gov. Mike] Huckabee and [former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick] Santorum.

When he eventually undergoes a tough spell, it will be much harder to him to sustain his support.” Rubio’s campaign, predictably, does not see it that way. Aides promise that New Hampshire voters will get plenty of chances to see the candidate up close and personal. The senator was in the state on Friday, speaking to a Republican women’s event in Greenland. “We’ve always believed that Marco can do very well in New Hampshire, and voters there will see him a lot in coming weeks,” Rubio’s communications director Alex Conant told The Hill.

“Our TV ads began running in New Hampshire earlier this week, and we have several trips scheduled.” Conant was careful to add, however, that “unlike some campaigns who are only focusing on one state, we believe that Marco can compete everywhere because he is a next-generation conservative who can unite the party.” Rubio’s fortunes in New Hampshire will depend on the extent to which he can close what is now a yawning chasm between him and Trump. The businessman is currently 15 points clear, with more than double Rubio’s support, according to the RCP average.Many people urge caution about reading too much into the polls at this stage.“He is gaining support in the polls this week and last week so it is a symbol — of something,” said David Carney, a veteran GOP strategist in New Hampshire. “He is the latest flavor of the month, but time will tell whether that will translate into votes in February. There are plenty of carcasses along the primary highway, where people get overheated about one or two polls.”

Others point out that the sheer number of candidates in the field complicates the picture. Christie, for example, has been making some inroads recently, having risen to 10 percent support and fourth place in the recent PPP poll in New Hampshire. “For Rubio, he wants that Bush-Kasich cohort to do as poorly as possible,” said Scala. “A stronger Chris Christie would hurt Rubio.”The New Jersey governor clearly has Rubio in his sights, too. At a campaign event Friday in Iowa, Christie told NBC News that Rubio “has no experience making decisions.” He had sounded a similar theme in an interview with The Atlantic, where he said of the Floridian, “there’s not a lot of depth there.”“One of the same things that plagues Bush, Christie, Kasich, Fiorina and anyone running (more or less) in the so-called ‘establishment’ lane is also plaguing Rubio,” said the anonymous GOP strategist. “They are all diluting the anti-Trump vote, and cannibalizing each other’s support, and that is unfortunate for the Republican Party as a whole.”
 


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12/07/2015 9:03 am  #2


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

If Someone other than Trump wins Iowa, and another wins NH, maybe we can put this nightmare of a candidate behind us.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/07/2015 10:01 am  #3


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

I still feel supremely confident that Rubio ends up winning the nomination.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

12/07/2015 10:13 am  #4


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

I'm starting to see it as well.
And, I think he will be a formidable opponent against Clinton


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/07/2015 10:41 am  #5


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

Rubio does nothing for me. We just aren't on the same page on the issues.

But, I must note that Rubio presents a contrast with Clinton that could play in his favor.
Young V Old.
Future V the past.
Newcomer V Insider.

Of course, youth only sells when it is very dynamic and polished.
Rubio has looked really shaky at times. Young and brash can turn into inexperienced in a flash.
Of course, if he commits his mistakes early, and he learns from them, it does nothing but make him stronger.
 


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/07/2015 5:57 pm  #6


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

TheLagerLad wrote:

I still feel supremely confident that Rubio ends up winning the nomination.

I don't know that I am confident he will be the contender, but I like his chances.  My guess is that it will come down to him, Trump and Cruz.  Man do I hope Rubio comes out on top in that battle.
 

 

12/07/2015 6:31 pm  #7


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

What is it about Marco Rubio that you like?  How does he want to solve the ever-growing wage gap?  His approach to dealing with religious extremism?  gun control?  LBGT issues?  corporatism and the influence of big money on politics?  defense spending and waste?  the outsourcing of the workforce?  offshore bank accounts used to avoid paying taxes?  re-building the middleclass?  unionization of the workforce?  climate change?

I could go on, as I'm sure you could, but I simply want to know what attracts you to him as the possible next president.  I don't want to hear what you don't like about someone else, I want to hear what you find great about him.

Last edited by Just Fred (12/07/2015 7:56 pm)

 

12/07/2015 6:48 pm  #8


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

WIth going into specifics on all subjects, I would say he is the candidate that most closely aligns with my political beliefs.  That doesn't mean i agree with everything he says, but out of the candidates running for President on both sides, he would be my first choice.

I also like the fact that he was tried to reach across the aisle to Democrats on issues in the past and his ideals are not as extreme as some of the other candidates

 

12/07/2015 7:59 pm  #9


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

I would say he is the candidate that most closely aligns with my political beliefs.

Ok, good start for conversation.  I would be interested to actually hear a few specifics, though, and include some things you don't agree with him.

 

 

12/07/2015 8:33 pm  #10


Re: Rubio rises in New Hampshire

Fred, it was not my intent when I commented on this thread to go into the details of why I prefer Rubio over the candidates.  I really don't have any interest in discussing that and it is my intention to only discuss things I have an interest in sharing

I was only commenting on the fact I wasn't confident Rubio would be the R-candidate, and of the 3 I think it could be, I hope it is Rubio.  I will say that if it is Cruz or Trump, I have no idea of who I would vote for next November.

 

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