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Now waiting for the personal attack from you know who!!
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Looks like the band is getting back together.
It's a Christmas miracle!
Common Sense wrote:
Never mind the weapons used were bought legally in Anti-gun California years ago!!
No "never mind" about it.
The fact that you can buy these weapons of war legally is exactly the point.
You did read the editorial, no?
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F*ck you New York Times, your biased and void of facts attack on
The 2nd amendment! - Common
I think you may have missed the point of the editorial, Common. It's not about arguing the wording of the thing. In part, it's about regulating the type of weaponry available to the public in a democratic society. As the author said, it's not like any amendment is immune to reasonable regulation.
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Just Fred wrote:
Ok, well I don't. I do not consider banning weapons of war to be an unreasonable regulation.
And that's fine but without any articulation of the legal support for enacting said public policy, it is easily dismissed as wishful thinking.
I understand you feel deeply about banning semi-auto military style rifles but that does not alter the legal realities.
Just Fred wrote:
We've been down this road before.
Not really, the conversation that needs to happen has been avoided. Discussing what you want to do is pie-in-the-sky when you have such a mistaken understanding of what actually can be done.
Just Fred wrote:
I'm sure there's some guy out there that would like to see regulations on surface-to-air missiles, land mines, hand-held bazookas, etc. lifted, too. But that ain't gonna happen much to his dismay.
And he is just as far out in right field as "assault weapon ban now" folks are out in left field . . . I'm not advocating for those things so I wonder why you are even bringing such nonsense into a reply to me.
Just Fred wrote:
You and I simply want to draw the line on civilian owned weaponry at different places.
But only one of us is willing and eager to discuss where that line is. Your advocacy demands you stick your fingers in your ears and sing "Henry the Eighth I am" at the top of your lungs when the nuts and bolts of the topic come up.
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Just Fred wrote:
I consider the proposal in the NYT's editorial to fall way beyond "reasonable restrictions". - Jeer
Ok, well I don't. I do not consider banning weapons of war to be an unreasonable regulation. We've been down this road before. I'm sure there's some guy out there that would like to see regulations on surface-to-air missiles, land mines, hand-held bazookas, etc. lifted, too. But that ain't gonna happen much to his dismay.
You and I simply want to draw the line on civilian owned weaponry at different places.
I agree.
And, it's not even a lose call.
Of course we should ban weapons of war from the civilian market.
Obviously. What is wrong with some folks?
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I understand you feel deeply about banning semi-auto military style rifles but that does not alter the legal realities. - Jeer
I don't get it. We've already established the government (meaning you and me) can put limitations and regulations on certain types of weaponry available, owned, and sold to the public.
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That video makes a very effective point.
I just saw some idiot Fox 'news', "contributor" (Eric Erickson) smiling and absolutely giddy over showing his copy of the NYT front page editorial with several bullet holes that he shot through it, at home, with his very own weapon. I guess to make some point about how bullets can rip through paper just as easily as they can tear through flesh. Anyhow, he continued his rant giggling his way through a series of verbal assaults on the left wing ninnies that assailed his motives and integrity when he posted his deed with a picture of his bullet ridden paper online. What a total jerk.
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Rongone wrote:
That video makes a very effective point.
I just saw some idiot Fox 'news', "contributor" (Eric Erickson) smiling and absolutely giddy over showing his copy of the NYT front page editorial with several bullet holes that he shot through it, at home, with his very own weapon. I guess to make some point about how bullets can rip through paper just as easily as they can tear through flesh. Anyhow, he continued his rant giggling his way through a series of verbal assaults on the left wing ninnies that assailed his motives and integrity when he posted his deed with a picture of his bullet ridden paper online. What a total jerk.
Another thoughtful voice.