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10/15/2015 5:37 pm  #31


Re: State Budget Impasse

Yes, I have also contacted Saylor, Wagner and Wolf and let them know my thoughts.  I don't expect much from it, as I have written Saylor and Wagner before and did not receive any response (probably because I disagreed with them).

Due to the lack of responsiveness from Saylor and Wagner and the role all 3 of them play in the on-going political circus that is Harrisburg, I don't see myself voting for any of them in the future (I never did vote for Wagner)

 

10/15/2015 6:03 pm  #32


Re: State Budget Impasse

Brady Bunch wrote:

Yes, I have also contacted Saylor, Wagner and Wolf and let them know my thoughts.  I don't expect much from it, as I have written Saylor and Wagner before and did not receive any response (probably because I disagreed with them).

Due to the lack of responsiveness from Saylor and Wagner and the role all 3 of them play in the on-going political circus that is Harrisburg, I don't see myself voting for any of them in the future (I never did vote for Wagner)

 

Good for you. I have received responses from Wagner & Wolf. I used to get responses from Saylor, but haven't for a while now. I have been told by some (I'll include my federal legislators here) that they disagree with me, but I still offer my input on a regular basis. What I don't tolerate is when the response is that I "don't understand" the issue. This is utilized quite a bit by one in particular . . . Scott Perry. This is an often used debate tactic by a person that has no factual/credible defense for their action/inaction. I am always clear that I am a registered Independent voter, retired manager/business owner with 1/2 my career spent in international business, and veteran of the U.S. Navy. My undergraduate degree is with a major in Political Science and advanced degree in business management. I take pride in the fact that I actively make myself aware of credible information on issues and for someone to tell me that I lack the ability to understand an issue, does not sit well with me.

I tend to believe the old saying: "We get the government we deserve".

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10/15/2015 6:42 pm  #33


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I tend to agree with your statment that we get the government we deserve.  Too few American voters are unable to take the necessary steps to be informed, or do not care enough to do so or get their information from less than admirable sources, and continue to vote for the same ol' same ol' and then complain about the government.

 

10/21/2015 9:43 am  #34


Re: State Budget Impasse

Here is the response I received from Gov. Wolf:

Dear :

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the current budget impasse. I understand the challenges that service providers, school districts, and others are facing due to the impasse. I am doing everything I can to mitigate the effects of the impasse and am working hard to reach a final budget agreement. I have announced my support for an appropriation to be included in a final budget to reimburse school districts and small nonprofits for the interest payments incurred on loans as a result of the budget impasse. The commonwealth will continue operations for all critical functions that impact the health, safety, and welfare of our citizens. More information regarding the budget impasse can be found at http://www.pa.gov/Pages/budgetFAQs.aspx.

Over the last four years, schools across Pennsylvania have suffered from $1 billion cuts that led to massive layoffs, huge property tax increases, and the elimination of valuable programs.  I have seen dedicated teachers and committed students who simply do not have the resources they need. The Commonwealth credit rating has been lowered five times from 2010-2014. That is why I have proposed a commonsense severance tax on natural gas extraction. My budget also fixes the budget deficit, cuts taxes to create jobs with good middle-class wages, and reduces the total tax burden on the average middle-class homeowner.

The budget passed by Republicans failed to include a commonsense severance tax, does not restore cuts made by Republicans to education over the last four years or reduce property taxes, and the Republican budget would increase – rather than responsibly address – the structural budget deficit. Indeed, the Republican budget leaves a huge deficit that would require cuts of at least $1 billion dollars to education funding on July 1, 2016.

I am still fighting for a budget that will move Pennsylvania forward. During this impasse, I will continue good faith negotiations with the General Assembly to find a compromise budget that adequately invests in our children’s education, fixes our structural deficit, and provides property tax relief to Pennsylvanians.

The people of Pennsylvania deserve a fiscally balanced budget. They deserve an end to the gimmicks, cuts, and underfunding that have prevented service providers from delivering critical services to our most vulnerable. They deserve investment in education and for oil and gas companies to pay their fair share, and they deserve relief from rising property taxes caused by Republican cuts to education.

There’s no reason why we can’t have the most dynamic economy and the strongest middle class. We still have the most innovative, resilient people anywhere. But the reality is that times have changed, and ideas that may have worked in the past simply aren’t working anymore. Now is the time to take the bold steps necessary for Pennsylvania to succeed in the modern economy.

          Sincerely,
                TOM WOLF
           Governor





Still no word from rep. Saylor.

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10/21/2015 12:09 pm  #35


Re: State Budget Impasse

So it's all the other side's fault?

BTW, what's a 'structural' budget?


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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10/21/2015 1:31 pm  #36


Re: State Budget Impasse

Conspiracy Theory wrote:

So it's all the other side's fault?

BTW, what's a 'structural' budget?

 

No, not the 'other side's fault'.

It's our fault. The voters fault. The people of Pennsylvania's fault for electing these people to serve in the government, expecting them to do their jobs, but not forcing them to take responsible action on issues. Then, worst of all, re-electing them.

Write, call, e-mail, show up at a town hall and question these bozos. Wake up people . . . It's up to you.

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10/21/2015 2:17 pm  #37


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My post should have been in 'sarcasm font' Ron 


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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10/21/2015 2:19 pm  #38


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Conspiracy Theory wrote:

My post should have been in 'sarcasm font' Ron 

I understand CT. But I still stand by my premise.

BTW for a definition of Structural budget deficit :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_and_cyclical_deficit
 

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10/27/2015 6:51 am  #39


Re: State Budget Impasse

This is what we are paying for our legislator's incompetence.


Pennsylvania, your state Legislature is out of money

The now 119-day state budget impasse has gone on so long that all four legislative caucuses have exhausted their oft-criticized legislative reserves.

With no more financial cushion, the House and Senate Republican and Democratic caucuses have had to identify an alternative funding source to keep the legislative branch open for business for the duration of the impasse.

On Friday, the Senate Republican and Democratic caucuses joined their House Republican colleagues in what some suggest might be an unprecedented move of borrowing money to cover payroll and other costs associated with their operation.

This move is not without added cost to taxpayers, who will pick up the combined $115,000 loan origination fees, plus interest charges on funds that are borrowed.

The Senate borrowed $9 million from Pennsylvania-based PNC Bank at 3 percent interest. The amount borrowed is expected to be enough to meet payroll costs through the end of the year if the impasse lasts that long, said Senate Republican spokeswoman Jennifer Kocher. The origination fees for that loan is $25,000.

The House Republican Caucus closed on a $30 million line of credit on Oct. 19  to continue to pay its salaries and benefits of representatives and staff, along with cover district offices and related costs through January. So far, it has drawn down $5 million, said House Republican spokesman Steve Miskin.

The House GOP's loan is with a group of in-state banks, Miskin said. First National Bank of Pennsylvania is the lead lender, along with Fulton Bank, Northwest Savings Bank, First Commonwealth Bank and Orrstown Bank. The interest rate on this syndicated loan is 3.25 percent until Jan. 1 when the rate would increase by 1 percent. The origination fee is $90,000.

Along with the lawmakers and members' payroll costs, the caucuses' borrowing covers the cost of the bi-partisan committees and offices that manage their respective chambers. 

The House Democratic Caucus last month made a separate arrangement with Treasury that allows it to receive a stopgap appropriation to cover its payroll costs without accruing interest charges. That move drew criticism from Republicans who considered it unconstitutional and said it breaks faith with the time-honored concept of separation of powers.

As of Monday, Treasury had paid out $5.7 million to cover House Democrats' salaries and benefits, said Treasury spokesman Scott Sloat.

For citizen activist Eric Epstein of RocktheCapital, the ability for caucuses to find alternative funding sources during a budget impasse negates the need for the Legislature to hold on to unspent money at the end of each fiscal year for use later.

The balance in those legislative reserve accounts was as high as $215 million 10 years ago. At the end of 2013-14, it was $161.4 million.

Epstein for years has railed against the legislative surpluses and urged lawmakers to put a cap on the amount of money they can hold in reserve to fund their operations during budget impasses. Lawmakers argued that the reserve fund was necessary to ensure their independence during prolonged budget fights. 

"The big question now is whether or not they'll have the ability to replenish the [surplus] funds," Epstein said.

Seeing the House GOP and Senate borrow money to stay afloat puts them in the same boat as many of the shelters around the state that provide emergency help to domestic violence victims, said Peg Dierkers, executive director of the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Domestic Violence.

Almost all of the shelters have maxed out their credit cards, used up or are using their reserves, or established lines of credit, along with seeking community donations. One shelter last week sought a second line of credit, she said. Meanwhile, one in the Southeast has staff who agreed to defer their pay until a budget is passed to ensure services can continue for victims.

Dierkers said she hopes that the lawmakers' need to borrow money provides an added incentive for them to reach a budget agreement with Gov. Tom Wolf.

Otherwise, she suggested instead of borrowing money "they should have to raise the money from community donations just like we're going to have to do."

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10/27/2015 3:24 pm  #40


Re: State Budget Impasse

Hey just because there is a budget crisis, that doesn't mean you can't go on break for a couple of weeks.

From Pennlive:


State senators will bug out for two weeks starting Wednesday - should they stay and get a #PABudget deal?

If you weren't paying attention to the Pennsylvania Cable Network this Tuesday afternoon as the state Senate went through its paces, then you probably missed this one:

As is so often is the case, the 50-member chamber adopted a resolution authorizing it to go into a recess from voting sessions -- this time from Oct. 28 until Nov. 16.

In general, these votes tend to be pretty pro forma exercises and are passed with nary the bat of an eyelash.

But with the state budget nearly four months late, minority Democrats offered an amendment that would have kept the chamber continuously in session during that two-week window.

It didn't happen. The motion was tabled. And the recess resolution, as it's known, was approved along party lines Tuesday afternoon.

"It's extremely disappointing that something is more important in our home districts instead of trying to reach an agreement on the budget," said Sen. Art Haywood, D-Philadelphia, who led the unsuccessful push.

This would be where we pause to point that rank-and-file lawmakers have exactly zero role in budget negotiations. Those will continue regardless of whether the Senate is in session or not.

It's an untidy truth, but a truth nonetheless.

That's because such agreements are negotiated between, maybe, six or eight senior legislative leaders and the administration. When there's a deal, rank-and-file lawmakers review the legislation and put up votes. 

Until or unless that happens, there's precious little for backbenchers to do except hoover up per-diem payments and wait for something to happen.

And, right now, legislative leaders aren't even in engaged in face-to-face talks with Gov. Tom Wolf.

With the four caucuses borrowing money to stay afloat, sending those not essential to the process home until they're needed seems like pretty sound fiscal stewardship, some have argued.

A per-diem, by the way, runs around $150 a day. Multiply that by 49 senators (there's one vacancy), and then by 14 days, and you get $102,000 or thereabouts (depending on who takes them). 

We'll add that the Senate just borrowed $9 million from PNC Bank to stay afloat until the impasse ends.

The origination fee on the loan will run $25,000, or a little less than a quarter of what's needed to pay lawmakers' food and hotel bills during that same time period.

But that's not the way Haywood sees it.

Keeping backbenchers in town would "pressure" majority Republican legislative leaders into cutting a deal with the Democratic Wolf administration, he argued.

"Some Republican senators said to me, if I have to stay here that long, my wife is going to kill me," he said. "That's pressure to get it done. A number of senators have businesses in home districts have to operate. Some have small children. That's pressure to get it done."

Haywood said he's willing to skip per diems if it means getting a budget done.

But, let's face it, not all his colleagues may be so magnanimous

Jennifer Kocher, a spokeswoman for Senate Republicans, said rank-and-filers are free to hang around Harrisburg if they want to - a voting session (where there would likely be nothing to vote on in any case) isn't required for that.

"Many of our members have indicated that they have faith in our leadership to perform negotiations," she said. "They are in district working with schools and social service agencies that are struggling with gubernatorial vetoes because of their funding plans."

What do you think?

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