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9/03/2015 6:44 pm  #31


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

Well done, Tarnation.  This woman refused the judge's offer so off to jail she went!

 

9/04/2015 7:18 am  #32


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

Goose wrote:

If a spiritual conflict prevents one from doing her job, the honorable thing to do is resign.

It is not for her to decide if others may marry.

Hope she reflects upon that while in jail.

Agree. I actually kinda hate that she's in jail. Jail should be reserved for people who committ violent crimes or those who are a danger to others.

Don't get me wrong, she is clearly in contempt of court and clearly violating the law.

But I wish there was a legal mechinism where a court could look at the facts as say, "Look, you're not executing your duties as you promised to do. So we have to either fire you, or at the very least suspend you until a recall election or voter referendum can take place."


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

9/04/2015 7:25 am  #33


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

I still can't understand why people think 'god's law' trumps everything else.

Where is this law?  Where are it's courts?  Does this make every one of them a police officer?

Is it arrogance to believe they can interpret the will of their god?  Or that it's everyone's job to execute it?

Historically, religious governments always imploded.  Once they'd beaten or jailed or murdered the people who wouldn't conform they shattered into factions and turned on each other.

So why does someone think religious government is a good idea?

Just like comunism, a theocracy might work fine on a small scale but is worthless on a large scale.

Rome fell for a reason.


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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9/04/2015 8:20 am  #34


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

Good posts.

BTW, aren't most of gods laws about how you are to behave, and not how it's your job to determine how others behave?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/04/2015 9:11 am  #35


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

Many of the GOP presidential candidates are supporting this lady.

So, if I may:
Immigration laws must be strictly enforced.

Marriage laws,,,, totally up to the clerk.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/04/2015 9:17 am  #36


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

And I'm having trouble understading how one person abusing another person in the name of their beliefs constitutes 'freedom'.


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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9/04/2015 11:16 am  #37


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

In related news; citing religious objections, a Christian Scientist pharmacist has announced that he will refuse to fill any prescription,,,,,,,,, 


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/04/2015 3:11 pm  #38


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

TheLagerLad wrote:

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Agree. I actually kinda hate that she's in jail. Jail should be reserved for people who committ violent crimes or those who are a danger to others.

Don't get me wrong, she is clearly in contempt of court and clearly violating the law.

But I wish there was a legal mechinism where a court could look at the facts as say, "Look, you're not executing your duties as you promised to do. So we have to either fire you, or at the very least suspend you until a recall election or voter referendum can take place."

Yea verily,

The only rememdy is removal from office.

Now she sits in jail on the taxpayer's dime while continuing to collect her salary on the taxpayers's dime.

The jailing strikes me as a personal vendetta on behalf of the judiciary.   Which is misuse of power.as agreggious as the clerrk's refusal to carry out her sworn duty.
 


Life is an Orthros.
 

9/04/2015 3:21 pm  #39


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

My understanding is that the Judge lacks the power to remove this clerk from office. So, that option was not available.
Is that correct?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/04/2015 3:35 pm  #40


Re: Elected county clerk takes law into her own hands

The legal issue — that no one, whether a government or an individual engaged in civil disobedience has standing to flout a court order — is well established.

However, Jurists like Judge Bunning have few options to prod compliance, fines or incarceration. 

If the judge fined her, it is likely that some right wing groups would have paid the fines for her, and Davis would remain at her post, defying the courts of the United States.

The only measure I see, short of the voters removing Davis, is to reach an accomodation by which Davis agrees to let deputies in her office issue marriage licenses while she personally abstains.
My understanding is that she was offered such accomodation and refused.

 


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

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