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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
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Why was Trayvon a thug?
Could you offer something more substantial than,
Martin was killed because he was a thug.
And the proof that he was a thug was that he was killed.
His actions, before and up until he was killed proved that he was a thug. Now, that's not to say he couldn't have changed his ways and become an upstanding citizen, but his thuggish ways got him killed before he had that chance.
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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
Why was Trayvon a thug?
Could you offer something more substantial than,
Martin was killed because he was a thug.
And the proof that he was a thug was that he was killed.
His actions, before and up until he was killed proved that he was a thug. Now, that's not to say he couldn't have changed his ways and become an upstanding citizen, but his thuggish ways got him killed before he had that chance.
So, he wasn't convicted of anything then?
Actually, what got Trayvon killed was that he was a black youth walking thru a neighborhood, and he was confronted by a vigelante who happened to have a gun. Even Zimmerman's defense team admitted that he, zimmerman initiated the confrontation.
How would your 17 year old self have reacted to being confronted by an angry man that you yourself now consider a thug?
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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
Any term can be 'racially charged'.
It's just a matter of using the same term or terms over and over again in the same context.
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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
Any term can be 'racially charged'.
It's just a matter of using the same term or terms over and over again in the same context.
Exactly..
Context determines meaning. And usage can change over time.
When I was a kid, if you asked me what a thug was I would say a mafioso type guy in a raincoat and fedora.
But I - and others - have noticed in recent years the term being used over and over again to describe black youth, especially those protesting, rioting or getting themselves killed by police or vigilantees.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
At least with the term "thug" the historical meaning and this new contextual reapplication to mean some Black youth has some relationship to each other. The "new" term and the old one both assume / allude to actual criminality.
That differs from the actual redefining of terms such as "vigilante" which is now applied to private citizens who are exercising their legal right to do something (e.g., open carry) or those who have acted in legal, justified self defense. This new redefinition diametrically parts ways with the historical and accepted definition that has as its most fundamental component, exacting revenge, inflicting punishment or at a minimum, acting outside the rule of law to actually harm another for a perceived injury.
This is an example of the word games the left plays . . . Bemoan the use of the term " thug" to excuse criminality but embrace perverting the term vigilante to denigrate law-abiding citizens.
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Re: Is "thug" the new N Word?
Actually, thug started out as a description of criminality. It has recently morphed into a polite way of saying N_____
It simply denotes black youths that one does not approve of.. The relationship to actual criminal activity can be either real, or simply imagined. For example, Trayvon Martin, guilty of two school suspensions, and the victim of a vigilante becomes a "thug".
And, since he is a "thug" we have license to not care if he dies violently at the age of 17.
Compassion is reserved for "good people".
"The left".
Wouldn't that be a "word game" used to bemoan the fact that others have opinions you don't like.
It truly is interesting how words and labels can be used.
For example, using the label "law abiding citizens" to describe people who are stockpiling weapons in order to engage in armed conflict with their own elected government,,,,,,,,
I wonder what label would be used if Black Lives Matter started arming themselves to battle the government to enforce their own understanding of the Constitution?
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This is an example of the word games the left plays . . . Bemoan the use of the term " thug" to excuse criminality but embrace perverting the term vigilante to denigrate law-abiding citizens.
Perverting the term vigilante?
From Merriam Webster:
Vigilante. Noun.
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice
From Wikipedia.
A vigilante is a civilian or organization that undertakes law enforcement (or actions in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) that is without legal authority.
Now I don't know if Rongone is the official spokesman of "the left", but he sure seems to be correct in classifying the Oathkeepers, in their appearance in Ferguson, as acting as vigilantes.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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