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Turn Right to Get To White House?
Well, Marco Rubio has decided steer a campaign about ideas into the ditch of the culture wars. Rubio has decided to follow the well trodden path of trying to appeal to evangelical voters in the early GOP primaries.
And how does one do that? Well, you scare them by telling them that their way of live is threatened by people who are different from them being allowed to live their lives as they please. It's all there, the warning that we are on the edge of some dark thing. playing in to the seige mentality.,,,,,,,,
God, gays,,,,,, next he'll terrify them with "They" are coming to get your guns!
What a waste.
Rubio: Gay marriage proponents pose 'danger' to Christianity
Updated 1:36 AM ET, Thu May 28, 2015
Source: CNN
Washington (CNN)Florida Sen. Marco Rubio took a decidedly conservative turn on same-sex marriage in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network this week, warning that "there's a real and present danger" that gay marriage proponents will cast the teachings of mainstream Christianity as "hate speech."
"If you think about it, we are at the water's edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech. Because today we've reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater," the Republican presidential candidate said.
"After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and there's a real and present danger," Rubio warned.
Rubio has always been personally opposed to same-sex marriage and has argued the issue should be left up to the states.
But his comments to CBN Tuesday mark a notable shift in tone for a candidate who told CNN earlier this year that if the Supreme Court ruled in favor of same-sex marriage, "that would be the law of the land that we would have to follow until it's somehow reversed."
His choice to sound the alarm on a possible attack on Christianity aligns him more closely with the evangelicals he'll be courting in the early primary states of Iowa and South Carolina. But Rubio's statement comes at a time that Republicans increasingly see themselves losing the battle for public opinion over gay marriage.
In a sign of how fraught the issue has become, a prominent Christian conservative group just announced that it's eliminating its "marriage pledge," a 14-point credo the Family Leader circulated to candidates in 2012 that required them to pledge to back the definition of traditional marriage as between one man and one woman, among other things.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Throwing red meat out there to get votes from a segment of the base. Might have worked in the past. Not sure how it plays today. Most polls show Americans support same-sex marriage.
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I found this poll interesting. 
Only 28% of evangelical Christians support marriage equality. So, this explains Rubio's strategy of appealing to their fears to get votes. However, 60% of Catholics, and 62% of mainstream Protestants support marriage equality. And this is moving very quickly. A decade ago, the most supportive religious groups were white mainline Protestants and Catholics, with 36 percent and 35 percent support, respectively.
GOP candidates face electoral danger here. Taking an extreme view on same sex marriage (Not just that you are against same sex marriage, you also believe that it presents a danger to Christianity) might get money and votes in the early primaries. However, it could drive away mianstream Christians, especially the young, and make the candidate unelectable in the general election.
I think that the candidates had better avoid this issue. Rubio is stepping in it.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Thread Starter- Common Sense
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So the warning has been sent. You dare oppose us and you will be labeled!
Don’t even think of it………… You will be crushed in the media!
In today's society can you have Christian beliefs without being labeled as…….
You Homophobe, Hater,
Just a note…. Think Progress seems to dislike Rubio?
A few of the headlines for him.
Stories tagged with “Marco Rubio”
Rubio: If We Don’t Stop Gay Rights, Soon The Teachings Of The Catholic Church Will Be ‘Hate Speech’
Rubio’s Gambian Human Rights Fiasco Gets Worse
Host Of Rubio Fundraiser Was Foreign Agent For Dictator Who Endorses Gay Beheadings
Marco Rubio Refuses To Answer A Basic Question About The Iraq War
Marco Rubio Isn’t The Only Republican To Defend For-Profit Colleges
Why The Supreme Court Says It’s Alright For Rubio To Have Biweekly Calls With A GOP Megadonor
Rubio Has Already Alienated Latinos, The Tea Party, Big Business And The Religious Right
The Issue That Could Derail Marco Rubio’s Presidential Chances With Latino Voters
Marco Rubio Gets An ‘F’ On Net Neutrality
Marco Rubio Accuses Gay Marriage Advocates Of ‘Intolerance’ And ‘Hypocrisy’
Last edited by Common Sense (5/28/2015 7:52 am)
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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In today's society can you have Christian beliefs without being labeled as…….
You Homophobe, Hater, - Common
Actually, I agree with you. It is surely possible, and the graph presented affirms that not all members of a particualr faith are in agreement on this issue. There are two sides to this issue ............ the Church and the government. If the government chooses to validate equal rights for gay people, I have no problem with a priest, minister, or pastor declining to marry the couple because that's the Church's business.
I was married in Florence, Italy. Since my wife and I weren't Catholic, we could not be married in a Catholic church. That was made clear to us from the start, and we had no problem with that. We were simply married in a civil ceremony by the vice-mayor of Florence in the Palazzo Vecchio (the city's civic building). From the government's point of view, our marriage was just as valid as a Catholic couple being married by a priest in a Church. Perhaps the Catholic Church may or may not accept our marriage, but that wasn't important to us.
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Common Sense wrote:
So the warning has been sent. You dare oppose us and you will be labeled!
Don’t even think of it………… You will be crushed in the media!
What on earth are you talking about?
The media has somehow done something wrong by reporting the words that come out of a candidate's mouth?
Seriously?
Rubio went out and took this position of his own accord.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Just a note…. Think Progress seems to dislike Rubio?
A few of the headlines for him.
Stories tagged with “Marco Rubio”
Rubio: If We Don’t Stop Gay Rights, Soon The Teachings Of The Catholic Church Will Be ‘Hate Speech’
Rubio’s Gambian Human Rights Fiasco Gets Worse
Host Of Rubio Fundraiser Was Foreign Agent For Dictator Who Endorses Gay Beheadings
Marco Rubio Refuses To Answer A Basic Question About The Iraq War
Marco Rubio Isn’t The Only Republican To Defend For-Profit Colleges
Why The Supreme Court Says It’s Alright For Rubio To Have Biweekly Calls With A GOP Megadonor
Rubio Has Already Alienated Latinos, The Tea Party, Big Business And The Religious Right
The Issue That Could Derail Marco Rubio’s Presidential Chances With Latino Voters
Marco Rubio Gets An ‘F’ On Net Neutrality
Marco Rubio Accuses Gay Marriage Advocates Of ‘Intolerance’ And ‘Hypocrisy’
I hate to interrupt your Think Progress rant, CS, but it's a CNN story.
The Think Progress link I provided wasn't about Rubio. In fact, neither Rubio's name, nor that of any other republican candidate is even mentioned in the article.
It was reporting a poll conducted by The Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), which is an American nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to research and education at the intersection of religion, values and public life.
Please read the articles before reaching conclusions about them. It will save you some embarrassment.
And, how about replying to the topic for a change? Is Rubio's latest attempt to appeal to evangelicals on same sex marriage likely to help or hurt him in the long run?
That is a much more interesting topic than your personal thoughts about same sex marriage, the media, or think progress.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Appealing just to the far right or far left is NOT going to win you a National election !
"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
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Appealing just to the far right or far left is NOT going to win you a National election !
The strategy of running to the right, or left in the primaries and moving to the center in the general election is fraught with risk. I agree, it probably won't work this time, or with this issue.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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