Just Fred wrote:

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!

Just look at the freakin' chart and explain it.  Does it tell you nothing about the relationship between gun deaths and the proliferation and access to weaponry in America?

If I showed you a chart or graph comparing smokers and non-smokers to lung cancer rates, you wouldn't see a connection?  I'm not advocating a ban on guns or smoking.  I'm simply asking if you believe there's a connection between lung cancer and smoking, and a connection between gun accessiblity/proliferation and gun-related murder rates.

Geez, this ain't rocket science here.

Is this scream and mini-rant directed at me?
 

Brady Bunch wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Brady Bunch wrote:

 
I don't think those analogies are correct to the court case discussed.  They aren't saying bring a bottle of vodka to an AA meeting, the analogy would be the court said we shouldn't limit or restrict vodka to everyone because some people have a problem.

Same with obese kids reference, the court said we shouldn't limit those foods t everyone just because some people are obese.

Those analogies just aren't correct to this situation

OK. Maybe you could provide us with a more correct analogy.
 

 
I'm not sure what a more accurate analogy would be, I just know the ones mentioned are not.

So, you are saying that you are sure my analogies are wrong, but you can't come up with a more appropriate one.

Sounds kind of like the reverse of Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's predicament with pornography: he said he couldn't describe it, but he knew it when he saw it.

Apparently, you are adept at pointing out that other people's descriptions that are incorrect from your perspective, but are unable to provide an example based upon your own personal experience.

That's an interesting twist on debating technique as it would be hard to counter a position that, by your own admission, doesn't exist. Brilliant! (lightbulb)
 

Your analogies are saying they are giving something to someone that already has an issue (for example vodka to an alcoholic or feeding fattening food to obese kids).

But not everyone getting a concealed carry permit has an issue, in fact the vast majority of them do not have the issue, especially if they are going through all the legal requirements to obtain a permit.

This is why I believe your analogy is not accurate.

Last edited by Brady Bunch (5/20/2015 2:17 pm)

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Hey, We are very particular about our analogies around here. 

Is this scream and mini-rant directed at me?  -  Brady

No, it was a general comment about looking at the graph and not being able to see the connection between the proliferation and access to weapons in America and the gun-related murder rate which completely demolishs every other Westernized country except for maybe Chile.