Brady Bunch wrote:

Goose wrote:

The debate over the moment Graham says she “lost it” is complex. There’s a parallel black debate going on that, as always when it comes to racial issues, is richer and more nuanced. But anyone white who’s applauding Graham’s moment of desperation, along with the white media figures who are hyping her “heroism,” is essentially justifying police brutality, and saying the only way to control black kids is to beat the shit out of them.

I’m aware that a lot of African Americans are lauding Graham, too. This piece isn’t directed at them. Whether they applaud or critique Graham’s corporal punishment, most black people debating the issue acknowledge that the desperate public beating came from centuries of black parents knowing they have to discipline their children harshly, or else white society will do it for them – and they may not survive it.


http://www.salon.com/2015/04/29/the_hideous_white_hypocrisy_behind_the_baltimore_%E2%80%9Chero_mom%E2%80%9D_hype_how_clueless_media_applause_excuses_police_brutality/

I can't disgaree with these statements more.

So everyone white person who thinks the mother did the right thing is justifiying police brutality and condoning the beating of balck kids?  Give me a break.  I know plenty of people who are completely convinced that some cops are using excessive force and excessive brutality and who also support what this mother did.  Nor does supporting what this mother did mean white people think beating black kids is the only way to discipline them, my feelings would have been exactly the same if this was a white kid and white mother.

And can we please stop with this crap about it is ok for black people to say what the mother did was ok, but white people can't say that.

Then again, when I saw the author of this article also wrote a book called "What's the Matter With White People: Finding our Way in the Next America", I wasn't surprised at all.

We need to move past this sort of crap, all of it.
 

I agree it is a bunch of crap also. 

Not everyone disciplines their kids the same way. I can only remember once or twice spanking my kids, but then again I NEVER had them in a situation like a riot where really bad things could have happened either. 

BTW, the lad actually understood what his mom did and understood it was to protect him as the story below relates. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/29/us/baltimore-mother-slapping-son/index.html


 

Brady Bunch wrote:

Goose wrote:

I have less problem with  what the mom did, than with the lionization of her actions by people who never carred a wit for her before these riots. I think there is something to this.
Sorry.

You don't have to be sorry, we just happen to completely disagree and I think you are wrong. 
 

That's OK. Men of good conscience can disagree.

Just Fred wrote:

After reading through this thread, I just have one thing to say, and I direct it to The Man:

Always challenge authority.  It's healthy in a free society to do that. 

Weren't the rioters doing that ?  



 

I am concerned that all the high fives about her from the right seem to play into the narrative of "what we need in this situation is more force".

Goose wrote:

I am concerned that all the high fives about her from the right seem to play into the narrative of "what we need in this situation is more force".

I believe the high fives as you call them are the feeling that what we need is more active parenting involvement. This may not have been your choice of action in the situation, but there is no getting away from the fact she DID totally care about her child and her actions showed it big time.