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4/29/2015 4:40 am  #1


Nonviolence as Compliance

Here is a piece from The Atlantic. I don't expect it will win any fans on the Exchange. Nonetheless I share it as another point of view on the situation in Baltimore. There are people who do not see the police as tireless servants and protectors.



Nonviolence as Compliance
Officials calling for calm can offer no rational justification for Gray's death, and so they appeal for order.      
TA-NEHISI COATES  APR 27, 2015

Rioting broke out on Monday in Baltimore—an angry response to the death of Freddie Gray, a death my native city seems powerless to explain. Gray did not die mysteriously in some back alley but in the custody of the city's publicly appointed guardians of order. And yet the mayor of that city and the commissioner of that city's police still have no idea what happened. I suspect this is not because the mayor and police commissioner are bad people, but because the state of Maryland prioritizes the protection of police officers charged with abuse over the citizens who fall under its purview.

The citizens who live in West Baltimore, where the rioting began, intuitively understand this. I grew up across the street from Mondawmin Mall, where today's riots began. My mother was raised in the same housing project, Gilmor Homes, where Freddie Gray was killed. Everyone I knew who lived in that world regarded the police not with admiration and respect but with fear and caution. People write these feelings off as wholly irrational at their own peril, or their own leisure. The case against the Baltimore police, and the society that superintends them, is easily made:

Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson ....

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims—if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him—a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was “shocked.”


The money paid out by the city to cover for the brutal acts of its police department would be enough to build "a state-of-the-art rec center or renovations at more than 30 playgrounds." Instead, the money was used to cover for the brutal acts of the city's police department and ensure they remained well beyond any semblance of justice.

Now, tonight, I turn on the news and I see politicians calling for young people in Baltimore to remain peaceful and "nonviolent." These well-intended pleas strike me as the right answer to the wrong question. To understand the question, it's worth remembering what, specifically, happened to Freddie Gray. An officer made eye contact with Gray. Gray, for unknown reasons, ran. The officer and his colleagues then detained Gray. They found him in possession of a switchblade. They arrested him while he yelled in pain. And then, within an hour, his spine was mostly severed. A week later, he was dead. What specifically was the crime here? What particular threat did Freddie Gray pose? Why is mere eye contact and then running worthy of detention at the hands of the state? Why is Freddie Gray dead?

When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse.
The people now calling for nonviolence are not prepared to answer these questions. Many of them are charged with enforcing the very policies that led to Gray's death, and yet they can offer no rational justification for Gray's death and so they appeal for calm. But there was no official appeal for calm when Gray was being arrested. There was no appeal for calm when Jerriel Lyles was assaulted. (“The blow was so heavy. My eyes swelled up. Blood was dripping down my nose and out my eye.”) There was no claim for nonviolence on behalf of Venus Green. (“Bitch, you ain’t no better than any of the other old black bitches I have locked up.”) There was no plea for peace on behalf of Starr Brown. (“They slammed me down on my face,” Brown added, her voice cracking. “The skin was gone on my face.")

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is "correct" or "wise," any more than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Wisdom isn't the point tonight. Disrespect is. In this case, disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the community.

TA-NEHISI COATES is a national correspondent at The Atlantic, where he writes about culture, politics, and social issues. He is the author of the memoir The Beautiful Struggle.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/?fb_ref=Default


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4/29/2015 6:28 am  #2


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Now, tonight, I turn on the news and I see politicians calling for young people in Baltimore to remain peaceful and "nonviolent." These well-intended pleas strike me as the right answer to the wrong question.

Exactly. 

 

4/29/2015 9:50 am  #3


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“In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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4/29/2015 10:01 am  #4


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"A riot is the language of the unheard"

Also Martin Luther King.


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4/29/2015 11:02 am  #5


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I think we can all agree that non-violent protest is preferable to rioting, but a couple questions for you:

1.  What happens when your protests are ignored?  What if, no matter how noble the cause, nobody and/or the people in power won't listen?

2.  The recent protests are a special case in that the very people and policies you are protesting against are the same people charged with overseeing and monitoring the protest. Tough situation for everyone involved.

In some ways, the violence that erupted in Baltimore took the nation's eyes off the ball which was the history of the Baltimore PD and police brutality.  Now that the rioting has subsided, where do we go from here?  The reasons for the rioting still exist.

 

4/29/2015 12:26 pm  #6


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Just Fred wrote:

I think we can all agree that non-violent protest is preferable to rioting, but a couple questions for you:

1.  What happens when your protests are ignored?  What if, no matter how noble the cause, nobody and/or the people in power won't listen?

2.  The recent protests are a special case in that the very people and policies you are protesting against are the same people charged with overseeing and monitoring the protest. Tough situation for everyone involved.

In some ways, the violence that erupted in Baltimore took the nation's eyes off the ball which was the history of the Baltimore PD and police brutality.  Now that the rioting has subsided, where do we go from here?  The reasons for the rioting still exist.

 

Good comments.
Certainly no one is arguing that riots are good. They are, in fact the opposite.
The key is in understanding why these bad things occur.
Sadly, once the violence subsides, the nation's attention will be focused elsewhere


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4/29/2015 6:44 pm  #7


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I'd like to hear answers to my questions from everyone because the answers are important,  As Goose stated, "The key is in understanding why these bad things occur."

But, for some, when you have access to hammer, all problems look like nails.

 

4/29/2015 6:54 pm  #8


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Just Fred wrote:

I think we can all agree that non-violent protest is preferable to rioting, but a couple questions for you:

1.  What happens when your protests are ignored?  What if, no matter how noble the cause, nobody and/or the people in power won't listen?

2.  The recent protests are a special case in that the very people and policies you are protesting against are the same people charged with overseeing and monitoring the protest. Tough situation for everyone involved.

In some ways, the violence that erupted in Baltimore took the nation's eyes off the ball which was the history of the Baltimore PD and police brutality.  Now that the rioting has subsided, where do we go from here?  The reasons for the rioting still exist.

I'll take the bait and play along.

1.  Where have the protests been for this before the Freddie Gray murder in Baltimore?  This has been happening for years, voer $5 million paid out in settlemen claims in recent years and they didn't protest.  They just started protesting last week, I think you need to give it more time than 1 weeks worth of protests.  Non-violent protests worked for MLK Jr. and changed society.  Also seemed to work for the gay community to get same sex marriage.  You have to change people's hearts and minds, and violence will NEVER do that.

2.  The police were allowing the protestors in Baltimore to demonstrate peacefully as they wanted, they did nothing to instigate the riots on Monday or make the situation any worse

 

4/29/2015 7:05 pm  #9


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Except cause the death of a man in their custody.


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4/29/2015 7:10 pm  #10


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I wasn't trying to bait anyone or 'play along', BB.  I asked for responses to my questions and you offered your take.  Thanks.

I just have this feeling that when the protests in Baltimore subside, we will all go back to whatever we do and pretend the problems are solved.

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