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Re: Mayor of Baltimore Stephanie Rawlings-Blake
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The initial protests in Baltimore were peaceful as well.
Yes they were and the Baltimore police, on advice and consent of the mayor, gave the protestors ample time and space to have their voices heard.
And then Saturday night some elements of the protestors starting ratcheting up the rhetoric and things starting getting testy.
And everyone knew Freddie Grey's funeral was taking place yesterday and the police had said their were credible threats of violence. It just seems to me that the city goverment could have been more proactive than they were.
Yep, perhaps, but that is water over the dam.
Was there any other viable option at this point than what is happening ? I don't think so IMHO.
Some have felt closing the schools was a bad call. How about that decision ?
Water over the dam?! Tell that to the people at CVS (in a neighborhood where the unemployment rate is 50%) who are suddenly out of work this morning.
If I was them, I'd be pretty pissed off at the city government for not being better prepared.
As for what to do now? Increase the police and national guard presence. And let it be known that the city needs to enforce a zero tolerance for illegal behavior. And that force will be used.
Just an FYI, I was listening to the Baltimore police scanner on the way to work this morning and their is still looting going on.
We cannot talk about anything else until the looting and violence stops.
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And we can talk all day about all of the things that create the pressure that end up leading to events like these. The cycle of poverty. Poor schools. Lack of opportunity. A chasm between the police and the community. Drugs. The lack of cohesive family units. A general feeling of hopelessness among the poor and black in our inner cities.
Yea, we can talk all day about those things.
But the odds are the we (Meaning the country) won't.
That is a problem.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Yes they were and the Baltimore police, on advice and consent of the mayor, gave the protestors ample time and space to have their voices heard.
And then Saturday night some elements of the protestors starting ratcheting up the rhetoric and things starting getting testy.
And everyone knew Freddie Grey's funeral was taking place yesterday and the police had said their were credible threats of violence. It just seems to me that the city goverment could have been more proactive than they were.
Yep, perhaps, but that is water over the dam.
Was there any other viable option at this point than what is happening ? I don't think so IMHO.
Some have felt closing the schools was a bad call. How about that decision ?
Water over the dam?! Tell that to the people at CVS (in a neighborhood where the unemployment rate is 50%) who are suddenly out of work this morning.
If I was them, I'd be pretty pissed off at the city government for not being better prepared.
As for what to do now? Increase the police and national guard presence. And let it be known that the city needs to enforce a zero tolerance for illegal behavior. And that force will be used.
Just an FYI, I was listening to the Baltimore police scanner on the way to work this morning and their is still looting going on.
We cannot talk about anything else until the looting and violence stops.
I was not making light of the situation, but rather meaning it has happened and we need to move forward.
I agree with all you are saying.
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Here is a good article from CNN
Peacemakers put themselves in rioters' way
"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
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So, Common, for this moment, you are the mayor of Baltimore. What do you do?
I think the time to increase the police response would have been last Saturday night.
Things were starting to spiral out of control then. Looting and some fires set in the city. You had 30,000 people locked in Camden yard because it was not safe for them to leave the stadium.
Who has been damaged by what has gone on? The black community pretty much!
Years of improvements gone in one night!!
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I think the time to increase the police response would have been last Saturday night.
Thanks for the response, Common, and while we can armchair quarterback this thing forever, what about now? How would you like to deal with this today, and what could we do to prevent this kind of thing from happening again?
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Yeah how do we get to the root of the problem and end this behavior? Should they ban gang-banging and rioting?
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The damage from the riots was significant. Here's a breakdown from Howard Libit, spokesman for the mayor's office:- 15 officers hurt, 6 hospitalized- 144 vehicle fires- 15 structure fires- Nearly 200 arrests
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I think the time to increase the police response would have been last Saturday night.
Thanks for the response, Common, and while we can armchair quarterback this thing forever, what about now? How would you like to deal with this today, and what could we do to prevent this kind of thing from happening again?
Take the city back for the lawful citizens!
Zero tolerance…..
Police in a massive force until law and order is restored.
How do you stop this from happening in the future?
Start the list…….
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Yeah how do we get to the root of the problem and end this behavior? Should they ban gang-banging and rioting?
Isn't rioting already illegal?
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.