I found the second paragraph in the first article as presented was confusing as it tended to state the problem is not fracking itself but the wastwater disposal and then went on to say that the vast amounts of wastewater that are deposited in the wastwater disposal well sites are not from fracking. 

Am I reading it correctly ???

 

Goose wrote:

Confusing paragraph.Seems to be saying that most of the water is not from the fracking, but from a separation process. I wouldn't split hairs like that. It seems to be one process from beginning to end that results in oil and gas production.

I guess my point is that the headline implies that the problem is from fracking and the actual article seems to say different particularly if you read the last part of the sentence that I wrote. If you take it at its stated quote then then fracking would be a less significant part of the problem. 





 

Goose wrote:

tennyson wrote:

Goose wrote:

Confusing paragraph.Seems to be saying that most of the water is not from the fracking, but from a separation process. I wouldn't split hairs like that. It seems to be one process from beginning to end that results in oil and gas production.

I guess my point is that the headline implies that the problem is from fracking and the actual article seems to say different particularly if you read the last part of the sentence that I wrote. If you take it at its stated quote then then fracking would be a less significant part of the problem. 
Tennyson



I don't think so. Maybe someone with more knowledge of Fracking can weigh in.
My understanding is that fracking involves injecting water, sand and other substances to create fractures that release gas and oil. The gas and oil obtained exists with naturally occurring water. The water is separated and becomes waste water. The water used to fracture is a minority of the waste, and the majority is a byproduct of the separation process.
But it's all from the process of oil and gas extraction. If it weren't for the fracking, the problem would not exist.
And it's causng earthquakes.
Why do you feel that a distinction between the two is significant?



 

 

AGAIN, because the article that you posted said that the cause was NOT fracking but the disposal of the waste water in disposal wells and that the vast majority of the waste water was not from fracking. That is why. Let's get to the bottom of this, that is OK. But perhaps the fracking itself is not the real issue. I was wondering as an aside what then the vast amount of other waste water was from if not from fracking and perhaps that whole area needs to be re-examined along with just WHERE waste water can be disposed of more sefely (if at all) as that seems to be an issue raised in the article as well. I think sometimes we get to focused on just one hot item (fracking) and miss the whole big picture. It seems to me based upon the article even if fracking would totally stop, that the problem would presist (if wastewater disposal is the culprit and fracking wastwater is only a small portion of it (again from the article))





 

Goose wrote:

The waste water is not from angel sweat. The waste water is from the separation process that yields usable oil and gas from the crude substance that the fracking brought to the surface.
The waste water is a byproduct of fracking, and its injection into the ground is causes earthquakes.

Ergo, part of the fracking process is causing the earthquakes.

Read the article. You are the one that posted it. The bulk of the wastewater is NOT from fracking. 

Why do you keep harping on JUST FRACKING. Let's get to the bottom of the bigger issue. 



 

Goose wrote:

tennyson wrote:

Goose wrote:

The waste water is not from angel sweat. The waste water is from the separation process that yields usable oil and gas from the crude substance that the fracking brought to the surface.
The waste water is a byproduct of fracking, and its injection into the ground is causes earthquakes.

Ergo, part of the fracking process is causing the earthquakes.

Read the article. You are the one that posted it. The bulk of the wastewater is NOT from fracking. 

Why do you keep harping on JUST FRACKING. Let's get to the bottom of the bigger issue. 




Perhaps you should read the article. The waste water is not from sewage plants, not from farming, not dropped down the holes by the hand of God.
It is a by-product of the fracking process. 
That's the top, middle, and bottom of this.
Why are you being so dense?

  Produced  water is naturally occurring water within the  Earth that is  often high in salinity and coexists with  oil and gas in the subsurface.  As the oil and gas is extracted/produced, so  is  the    
water.   This water is then  separated  from the oil and  gas and re-injected into disposal wells,    
often  at  greater  depth from which it was  produced. 

 

OK, I give up. If you don't want to read and understand the words of your own article that is fine. 

Maybe someone else can explain it to you. I have stated it as simply as I can from what the article states.