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12/13/2017 6:01 am  #1


Remember How We Were going to be Unlike 'Weak' Obama on NK?

Trump will, of course, deny it, but the United States just backed down on the Korean issue.

Look for Trump to do something to reassert his tough guy swagger with some stunt. Maybe he'll pick on the NFL, or some lady Senator to distract you. 



US ready for North Korea talks without preconditions, says Tillerson

The US is "ready to talk any time" with North Korea without preconditions, says Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
His statement appeared to shift the US position away from previous demands that North Korea must disarm before any talks can be held.

But hours later the White House said President Donald Trump's views on North Korea "had not changed".

North Korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons technology has led to heavy US-led sanctions against the regime.
Separately, the UN's political chief Jeffrey Feltman, who recently visited Pyongyang, told reporters that North Korean officials felt it was "important to prevent war".

China and Russia both welcomed Mr Tillerson's comments. The Chinese foreign ministry hoped there would now be "meaningful steps towards dialogue and contact" between the US and the North.
Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman said: "Such constructive statements impress us far more than the confrontational rhetoric that we have heard up to now."

Diplomatic relations between the US and North Korea have been strained by recent North Korean nuclear and missile tests, and by a war of words between Mr Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un.
Speaking at the Atlantic Council policy forum on Tuesday, Mr Tillerson said the US "simply cannot accept a nuclear armed North Korea".

Appearing to soften the US stance towards potential future talks, he said: "Let's just meet and let's talk about the weather if you want and talk about whether it's going to be a square table or a round table if that's what you're excited about.
"Then we can begin to lay out a map, a road map, of what we might be willing to work towards."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42333704


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/13/2017 6:03 am  #2


Re: Remember How We Were going to be Unlike 'Weak' Obama on NK?

Likely now Trump; will fire Tillerson. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

12/13/2017 8:43 am  #3


Re: Remember How We Were going to be Unlike 'Weak' Obama on NK?

Yea, whether it happens today, or in six months, Tillerson is a dead man walking.

As far as NK goes, I'm happy with the offer of talks. There is no attractive military option.
But, I think that it is fair to point out how utterly incompetent the Trump administration has been about Korea.
Trump excoriated past Presidents for trying to find a diplomatic solution. So, after all of the bluster, Little rocket man, the era of strategic patience is over, fire and fury, we'll handle it, we are right back to where Obama was, Bush was, Clinton was,,,,,, seeking a diplomatic solution.

We just had an idiot blowhard talk really tough and waste a year.
For. Nothing.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
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12/13/2017 9:31 am  #4


Re: Remember How We Were going to be Unlike 'Weak' Obama on NK?

Goose wrote:

Yea, whether it happens today, or in six months, Tillerson is a dead man walking.

As far as NK goes, I'm happy with the offer of talks. There is no attractive military option.
But, I think that it is fair to point out how utterly incompetent the Trump administration has been about Korea.
Trump excoriated past Presidents for trying to find a diplomatic solution. So, after all of the bluster, Little rocket man, the era of strategic patience is over, fire and fury, we'll handle it, we are right back to where Obama was, Bush was, Clinton was,,,,,, seeking a diplomatic solution.

We just had an idiot blowhard talk really tough and waste a year.
For. Nothing
.

Like all the rest of the year in terms of accomplishments. 

 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

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