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4/16/2017 4:03 pm  #1


21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

 21 arrested as hundreds of Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash at Berkeley rally

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-trump-rally-20170415-story.html

Hundreds of pro-Trump demonstrators and counter-protesters clashed Saturday at a “Patriots Day” rally in Berkeley, the third time the groups engaged in violent confrontations on city streets in recent months.Fistfights broke out near Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park, where Trump supporters had scheduled a rally. Fireworks and smoke bombs were thrown into the crowd, and a few demonstrators were doused with pepper spray.

Both groups threw rocks and sticks at each other and used a large trash bin as a battering ram as the crowd moved around the perimeter of the park. One bank boarded up its ATMs before the rally as a precaution.About 250 police officers were deployed to the scene by mid-afternoon after officials sought assistance from the neighboring Oakland Police Department. 

Twenty-one people were arrested, including some on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon, according to Officer Byron White of the Berkeley Police Department. Eleven people were injured with at least six taken to a hospital for treatment, including one stabbing victim.Police confiscated knives, stun guns and poles, White said.
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

4/16/2017 4:09 pm  #2


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

Terrible.
Yet another sign that our nation needs to come together, and reject violence under any circumstances.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

4/16/2017 7:52 pm  #3


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

Goose wrote:

Terrible.
Yet another sign that our nation needs to come together, and reject violence under any circumstances.

I agree. 

These actions are the ones that get the news, however.

Most people can really dislike actions of another without resorting to violence (or in any way promoting it which can also lead to the same result). 
 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

4/16/2017 8:13 pm  #4


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

I will say that IMHO I see this as getting worse rather than getting better. 

I am not sure if society is mirroring politics or vice versa (and maybe it doesn't matter). 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

4/16/2017 8:29 pm  #5


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

As one more aside, I believe there ARE many valid reasons for protests, including the one below (those protesting for Trump to release his tax returns).  And the response by the POTUS will only make the protesters more vocal, I might add. 

Trump goes after tax returns protests: 'The election is over!'

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/329015-trump-goes-after-protest-groups-calling-for-him-to-release-his-tax

Last edited by tennyson (4/16/2017 8:32 pm)


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

4/17/2017 8:17 pm  #6


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

Common Sense wrote:

 21 arrested as hundreds of Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash at Berkeley rally

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-trump-rally-20170415-story.html

Hundreds of pro-Trump demonstrators and counter-protesters clashed Saturday at a “Patriots Day” rally in Berkeley, the third time the groups engaged in violent confrontations on city streets in recent months.Fistfights broke out near Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park, where Trump supporters had scheduled a rally. Fireworks and smoke bombs were thrown into the crowd, and a few demonstrators were doused with pepper spray.

Both groups threw rocks and sticks at each other and used a large trash bin as a battering ram as the crowd moved around the perimeter of the park. One bank boarded up its ATMs before the rally as a precaution.About 250 police officers were deployed to the scene by mid-afternoon after officials sought assistance from the neighboring Oakland Police Department. 

Twenty-one people were arrested, including some on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon, according to Officer Byron White of the Berkeley Police Department. Eleven people were injured with at least six taken to a hospital for treatment, including one stabbing victim.Police confiscated knives, stun guns and poles, White said.
 

I find this phrase disturbing.  Haven't quite figured out why yet.
 


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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4/18/2017 4:29 am  #7


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

Conspiracy Theory wrote:

Common Sense wrote:

 21 arrested as hundreds of Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash at Berkeley rally

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-trump-rally-20170415-story.html

Hundreds of pro-Trump demonstrators and counter-protesters clashed Saturday at a “Patriots Day” rally in Berkeley, the third time the groups engaged in violent confrontations on city streets in recent months.Fistfights broke out near Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park, where Trump supporters had scheduled a rally. Fireworks and smoke bombs were thrown into the crowd, and a few demonstrators were doused with pepper spray.

Both groups threw rocks and sticks at each other and used a large trash bin as a battering ram as the crowd moved around the perimeter of the park. One bank boarded up its ATMs before the rally as a precaution.About 250 police officers were deployed to the scene by mid-afternoon after officials sought assistance from the neighboring Oakland Police Department. 

Twenty-one people were arrested, including some on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon, according to Officer Byron White of the Berkeley Police Department. Eleven people were injured with at least six taken to a hospital for treatment, including one stabbing victim.Police confiscated knives, stun guns and poles, White said.
 

I find this phrase disturbing.  Haven't quite figured out why yet.
 

I think I have figured it out.
Referring to oneself, and those who agree with you politically as Patriots, implies that those who disagree with you are something other than Patriots.
It's offensive, and you find it disturbing.
So do I.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

4/18/2017 12:00 pm  #8


Re: 21 arrested as Trump supporters and counter-protesters clash

"Trump goes after tax returns protests: 'The election is over!'"

Would this be the same Trump that was demanding a birth certificate...well in to Obama's second term?


 


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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