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Senate plunges toward historic rules change in Supreme Court standoff
Judge Gorsuch will be confirmed on Friday the question is how it will happen? Looks like there will be 4 democrats voting for his confirmation as of today.
Senate plunges toward historic rules change in Supreme Court standoff
The Senate plowed Tuesday toward a historic and bitter showdown over President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, with a parade of lawmakers taking to the Senate floor to deliver politically charged speeches for and against the president’s pick as a final vote neared.There was no sign of compromise as the chamber formally opened debate on Judge Neil Gorsuch, who Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) predicted will be confirmed on Friday before senators leave town for the two-week Easter recess.
In a speech on the Senate floor, McConnell faulted Democrats for “hurtling toward the abyss” and “trying to take the Senate with them.” He urged them to “reconsider” their tactics.“It appears as if cloture will not be invoked, but we’ll find out on Thursday,” McConnell later told reporters, referring to an expected Democratic blockade of the federal appeals court judge. “But either way, we’ll be moving toward confirming Judge Gorsuch.”Only four Democrats have vowed they will side with Republicans to break that blockade and move to consider Gorsuch on the Senate floor.
One staunch Gorsuch critic, Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), took to the Senate floor Tuesday night to launch a marathon speech against him. Merkley’s office said he planned “to hold the floor and refuse to yield for as long as he is able to continue speaking.”
The overall Democratic obstruction is expected to compel GOP leaders to eliminate a 60-vote requirement for Supreme Court nominees and allow confirmation of Gorsuch with a simple majority vote.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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It is terrible it has come to this, BUT considering Merrick Garland, the Obama nominee to whom Senate Republicans refused to give a vote, or even a hearing, it is hard for them to complain about the current situation (that however will not stop them).
Partisan politics is out of control in this country. Till we elect representative that know how to co-operate and get things done this is what we deserve. I will add that the problem is just as much or even moreso with the electorate than the representatives themselves.
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I will add that the problem is just as much or even moreso with the electorate than the representatives themselves. - Tennyson
I agree with Tenny on this. 94 million people who had the right to vote didn't vote in this last election. It magnifies a point that maintaining a democracy is not a spectator sport. Otherwise, we will continue to march down the road to some kind of totalitarian state led by authoritarians.
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Somewhere down the road, Republicans are going to be very upset when some future Democratic president get to put Justice Solarpanel McSinglePayer on the Supreme Court by a 51-49 vote in the Senate.
It's a damn shame that the GOP wouldn't put a qualified mainstream judge like Merrick Garland up for a vote and it's a damn shame that the Dems are going to filibuster a qualified mainstream judge like Judge Gorsuch.
But this is where we are.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
Somewhere down the road, Republicans are going to be very upset when some future Democratic president get to put Justice Solarpanel McSinglePayer on the Supreme Court by a 51-49 vote in the Senate.
It's a damn shame that the GOP wouldn't put a qualified mainstream judge like Merrick Garland up for a vote and it's a damn shame that the Dems are going to filibuster a qualified mainstream judge like Judge Gorsuch.
But this is where we are.
Agree with you 100% Lager. This is not going to be good in the long run for the senate or the country.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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I will add that the problem is just as much or even moreso with the electorate than the representatives themselves. - Tennyson
I agree with Tenny on this. 94 million people who had the right to vote didn't vote in this last election. It magnifies a point that maintaining a democracy is not a spectator sport. Otherwise, we will continue to march down the road to some kind of totalitarian state led by authoritarians.
We don't live in a so called "totalitarian" state and we are not marching down a road toward it.
Totalitarianism is a political system in which the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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A bit of news about the process in the senate.
Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley took to the Senate floor just before 7 p.m. ET Tuesday vowing to talk "as long as I'm able" to protest Republicans' 2016 blockade of President Barack Obama's nominee for the seat, Merrick Garland.I'm able' against Gorsuch.
Merkley’s staff streamed the video of him on the Senate floor. So far, the Democratic senator has spoken for over 13 hours.
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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We don't live in a so called "totalitarian" state and we are not marching down a road toward it. - Common
Ok, then how about a system whereby corporations and government are fused together into some kind of fascist soup controlled by an ultra wealthy elite? Call it a plutocratic oligarchy instead.
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It's a stolen seat.
The democrats should do everything they can to oppose it
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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The Democrats just filibustered Gorsuch.
And thus ends the long road towards tearing down the final piece of collegiality, bipartisanship, tradition, and statesmanship in the United States Senate.
The Senate is now a more exclusive version of the House of Representatives. A top down organization that bows to the it's national political base rather than the needs of individual states and regions.
I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
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