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3/30/2015 9:59 am  #81


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

So 76 would perpetuate any existing disparities in district funding?
That doesn't seem to make sense.


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3/30/2015 10:14 am  #82


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

You can budget with your guaranteed tax money, and any donations, fund drives, etc. can be reliably budgeted in for the following year. It's not real reliable for budgeting purposes to have a homeowner tax base go down if people lose their homes either, yet that's what we have to deal with now. I'm totally on board with local control over how the money the schools do get is used.



I could be wrong too, but with the current way things are done not working for alot of people, it's worth brainstorming about. Whether it's lopsided funding of schools, or people losing homes because of it, neither of those things are good for children any way you look at it. There has got to be a way to have good school funding across the board and not have people losing their homes. We just have to find it.



I just spent a lot of time trying to post  this, and my computer was geeking out for some reason, so the above that I wrote is in response to post # 79

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3/30/2015 10:23 am  #83


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

BYOB wrote:

. It's not real reliable for budgeting purposes to have a homeowner tax base go down if people lose their homes either, yet that's what we have to deal with now.

 
Actually, we don't know that this is the case.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

3/30/2015 10:24 am  #84


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

Goose wrote:

So 76 would perpetuate any existing disparities in district funding?
That doesn't seem to make sense.

Me either. Perhaps it is not really as worded there, but if so seems to be a problem right from the get go. 



 


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3/30/2015 10:28 am  #85


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

BYOB wrote:

I could be wrong too, but with the current way things are done not working for alot of people, it's worth brainstorming about. Whether it's lopsided funding of schools, or people losing homes because of it, neither of those things are good for children any way you look at it. There has got to be a way to have good school funding across the board and not have people losing their homes. We just have to find it.

 
I agree.
FWIW, in Massachusetts we rely more on state income tax for funding schools than on property tax.
We still have property tax, but the system might merit a look.

But, please keep eyes wide open. Some people (not here) act as if 76 is going to be a massive tax cut.
They still have to raise the same amount of money from the citizens of the state. There's no free lunch.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

3/30/2015 10:28 am  #86


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

Goose wrote:

BYOB wrote:

. It's not real reliable for budgeting purposes to have a homeowner tax base go down if people lose their homes either, yet that's what we have to deal with now.

 
Actually, we don't know that this is the case.

I've personally known people that have lost their homes or had to move specifically because of property taxes. That means there are that many fewer homeowners that the schools can rely on for tax money. The newspapers have been loaded with sheriff's sales, many of which are due to taxes.

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3/30/2015 10:30 am  #87


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

BYOB wrote:

Goose wrote:

BYOB wrote:

. It's not real reliable for budgeting purposes to have a homeowner tax base go down if people lose their homes either, yet that's what we have to deal with now.

 
Actually, we don't know that this is the case.

I've personally known people that have lost their homes or had to move specifically because of property taxes. That means there are that many fewer homeowners that the schools can rely on for tax money. The newspapers have been loaded with sheriff's sales, many of which are due to taxes.

I need data (which I have asked for), not anecdotal stories. Sorry. It's my nature
 


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

3/30/2015 10:32 am  #88


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

Goose wrote:

BYOB wrote:

I could be wrong too, but with the current way things are done not working for alot of people, it's worth brainstorming about. Whether it's lopsided funding of schools, or people losing homes because of it, neither of those things are good for children any way you look at it. There has got to be a way to have good school funding across the board and not have people losing their homes. We just have to find it.

 
I agree.
FWIW, in Massachusetts we rely more on state income tax for funding schools than on property tax.
We still have property tax, but the system might merit a look.

But, please keep eyes wide open. Some people (not here) act as if 76 is going to be a massive tax cut.
They still have to raise the same amount of money from the citizens of the state. There's no free lunch.

I think the system would definitely merit a look. I, personally, don't see it as any kind of tax cut, and I'm definitely not looking for any kind of free lunch, just maybe a better way to get to where we want to be.
 

 

3/30/2015 11:18 am  #89


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

Goose wrote:

BYOB wrote:

Goose wrote:

 
Actually, we don't know that this is the case.

I've personally known people that have lost their homes or had to move specifically because of property taxes. That means there are that many fewer homeowners that the schools can rely on for tax money. The newspapers have been loaded with sheriff's sales, many of which are due to taxes.

I need data (which I have asked for), not anecdotal stories. Sorry. It's my nature
 

 

Look at sheriff's tax sales/tax lien sales, you may have to make your own chart with the data if you're looking for a graph of some kind. If you're looking for an estimated number, it's roughly 10,000 homeowners a year in PA that lose their homes due to property taxes. There's lots of good info on the Pennsylvania Taxpayers Cyber Coalition website. (www.ptcc.us)

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3/30/2015 11:24 am  #90


Re: Farmers skeptical of Wolf’s tax plan

Are they losing their homes strictly because of unreasonable property taxes, or is not paying their property taxes just the end of a long financial descent.
See what I'm asking? You cannot look at every sheriff sale and consider it proof that the taxes are the source.

Last edited by Goose (3/30/2015 11:25 am)


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