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Republican Senators Vote to Formally Silence Elizabeth Warren
Hey, did Mitch McConnell just declare that the United States Senate is a,,,,,,,,, safe space?
Mitch, don't melt down and cave in to political correctness.
Such a sensitive little snowflake!
Well, Christmas just came early for Elizabeth Warren!
Signs were that she might be facing a tough re-election fight in 2018.
Now, with every progressive and moderate feeling a rising concern over authoritarianism,,,,,,,,,,, the GOP gets heavy handed with the Honorable lady from Massachusetts,,,,,,,,
I'm calling her today. Credit card in hand.
And, I will not be alone.
Thanks, Mitch!!!!!!!
Republican Senators Vote to Formally Silence Elizabeth Warren
WASHINGTON — Republican senators voted on Tuesday to formally silence a Democratic colleague for impugning a peer, Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, by condemning his nomination for attorney general while reading a letter from Coretta Scott King.
Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, had been holding forth on the Senate floor on the eve of Mr. Sessions’s expected confirmation vote, reciting a 1986 letter from Mrs. King that criticized Mr. Sessions’s record on civil rights.
Sensing a stirring beside her a short while later, Ms. Warren stopped herself and scanned the chamber.
Across the room, Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, had stepped forward with an objection, setting off an extraordinary confrontation in the Capitol and silencing a colleague, procedurally, in the throes of a contentious debate over President Trump’s cabinet nominee.
“The senator has impugned the motives and conduct of our colleague from Alabama, as warned by the chair,” Mr. McConnell began, alluding to Mrs. King’s letter, which accused Mr. Sessions of using “the awesome power of his office to chill the pre-exercise of the vote by black citizens.”
Mr. McConnell called the Senate to order under what is known as Rule XIX, which prohibits debating senators from ascribing “to another senator or to other senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a senator.”
When Mr. McConnell concluded, Ms. Warren said she was “surprised that the words of Coretta Scott King are not suitable for debate in the United States Senate.” She asked to continue her remarks.
Mr. McConnell objected.
“Objection is heard,” said Senator Steve Daines, Republican of Montana, who was presiding in the chamber at the time. “The senator will take her seat.”
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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Well, if you're intention is replace democracy with fascism then you've got to squash the opposition. I imagine authoritarians have had Elizabeth Warren in their sights for some time now.
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"Unbecoming a Senator"?? ..... I can't stop laughing ! 
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Funny, Ted Cruz stood on the floor of the senate and called McConnell a liar, and nobody did anything to him.
This doesn't look good.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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The greatest deliberative body in the history of the world......
It's harmful to our nation that the Senate has slowly devolved into this.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
The greatest deliberative body in the history of the world......
It's harmful to our nation that the Senate has slowly devolved into this.
I would go a little further and say politics as a whole ! There was a time that politics was contentious BUT they seemed to find some common ground so that each side got a little of what they wanted. No more !
"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
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Shameful.
That's all that can be said.
Mitch McConnell should be ashamed of himself for silencing debate on the floor of the Senate.
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Re: Republican Senators Vote to Formally Silence Elizabeth Warren
The Senate voted, 49 to 43, strictly on party lines, to uphold the ruling that Warren violated Rule 19 of the Senate that says senators are not allowed to “directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator.” Pursuant to that rule, Warren was ordered to sit down and forbidden from speaking during the remainder of the debate on the nomination of Sessions.
Of course, that didn’t stop her. Warren took to Twitter to voice her outrage and read the King letter outside of the Senate. CNN reported that McConnell and the Senate GOP’s move to muzzle Warren backfired. Not really. Sessions will be confirmed as our next attorney general later tonight.
The haranguing Warren did will certainly get some liberals in their respective bubbles fired up, but that’s it. It won’t resonate beyond the typical urban-based and insufferably condescending progressive voter, which means it will do nothing to help Democratic efforts to rebuild and retake Congress.
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Re: Republican Senators Vote to Formally Silence Elizabeth Warren
The Senate voted, 49 to 43, strictly on party lines, to uphold the ruling that Warren violated Rule 19 of the Senate that says senators are not allowed to “directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator.” Pursuant to that rule, Warren was ordered to sit down and forbidden from speaking during the remainder of the debate on the nomination of Sessions.
Of course, that didn’t stop her. Warren took to Twitter to voice her outrage and read the King letter outside of the Senate. CNN reported that McConnell and the Senate GOP’s move to muzzle Warren backfired. Not really. Sessions will be confirmed as our next attorney general later tonight.
The haranguing Warren did will certainly get some liberals in their respective bubbles fired up, but that’s it. It won’t resonate beyond the typical urban-based and insufferably condescending progressive voter, which means it will do nothing to help Democratic efforts to rebuild and retake Congress.
I would disagree with Mr Vespa's views.
First of all, yea, Sessions is going to be confirmed. We knew that all along. Warren wasn't ever under the impression that she could stop it.
But McConnell made a huge blunder. If he had kept his mouth shut and Warren read the letter, it would have been little noted and soon forgotten. But Silencing Warren, McConnell energizes the opposition.
My breath is taken away by Mr. Vespa's arrogance in descibing the typical progressive voter as typically urban-based and insufferably condescending, in their bubble.
He forgets that Trump came in second in actual votes.
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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Re: Republican Senators Vote to Formally Silence Elizabeth Warren
The Senate voted, 49 to 43, strictly on party lines, to uphold the ruling that Warren violated Rule 19 of the Senate that says senators are not allowed to “directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator.” Pursuant to that rule, Warren was ordered to sit down and forbidden from speaking during the remainder of the debate on the nomination of Sessions.
Of course, that didn’t stop her. Warren took to Twitter to voice her outrage and read the King letter outside of the Senate. CNN reported that McConnell and the Senate GOP’s move to muzzle Warren backfired. Not really. Sessions will be confirmed as our next attorney general later tonight.
The haranguing Warren did will certainly get some liberals in their respective bubbles fired up, but that’s it. It won’t resonate beyond the typical urban-based and insufferably condescending progressive voter, which means it will do nothing to help Democratic efforts to rebuild and retake Congress.
Please enlighten me as to how anyone can justify McConnell's action invoking the ridiculous and rarely used Rule XIX to order another senator to 'sit down and shut up' for the remainder of any discussion about Sessions due to the fact that she was providing pertinent information about his qualifications for Attorney General of the U.S. Especially when one considers that two other senators read the same letter earlier during these discussions without interference from McConnell or any other senator.
Don't we want free and open discussions in our legislature, especially in reference to appointees to high government positions and their qualifications and abilities to provide unbiased service in full compliance with the law?
Did you read Coretta Scott King's referenced letter? What do you find so despicable about the content of her letter?