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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
Common Sense wrote:
Bernie Sanders what is wrong with you opposing TPP and supporting Trump!
Do you ever think beyond the level of politics and taunts, to examine policy?
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
Ok, no TPP.
What now?
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
The executive order withdrawing the U.S. from TPP is a granfalloon.
The TPP was negotiated under former President Barack Obama, but never ratified by Congress, so withdrawing from it will not have an immediate, real effect on US economic policies, although it does signal a new and very different US outlook on trade under Trump.
So, where do we go from here?
It's going to be an interesting 4 years.
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President Obama’s trade representative signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership "agreement", one of the largest multinational trade agreements in history.the President’s trade representative just quietly signed a massive, 5,544 page trade deal.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
Bernie Sanders what is wrong with you opposing TPP and supporting Trump!
Do you ever think beyond the level of politics and taunts, to examine policy?
Do you? Some nerve to talk about taunts! All you want is some reason to attack.
Sanders supports President Trump's order and that upset you. This issue is not and R or D issue.
Trump has been President 3 days give his administration a little bit of time to announce what they plan to do.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
The executive order withdrawing the U.S. from TPP is a granfalloon.
The TPP was negotiated under former President Barack Obama, but never ratified by Congress, so withdrawing from it will not have an immediate, real effect on US economic policies, although it does signal a new and very different US outlook on trade under Trump.
So, where do we go from here?
It's going to be an interesting 4 years.Feb 2016
President Obama’s trade representative signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership "agreement", one of the largest multinational trade agreements in history.the President’s trade representative just quietly signed a massive, 5,544 page trade deal.
Rongone is correct, is was a granfalloon. Till Congress passed it, it was meaningless. It played well to his followers, however. They can cheer all they want for what appeared to be DOA anyway ! 
The real issue is WHAT deals are yet to be announced and how they impact the average American, their wages and their costs of goods purchased as well as our overall trade balances.
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
Bernie Sanders what is wrong with you opposing TPP and supporting Trump!
Do you ever think beyond the level of politics and taunts, to examine policy?
Do you? Some nerve to talk about taunts! All you want is some reason to attack.
Sanders supports President Trump's order and that upset you. This issue is not and R or D issue.
Trump has been President 3 days give his administration a little bit of time to announce what they plan to do.
I'm not upset with Bernie at all. Why did you make that up?
I do think that we should go thru with TPP.
And, like the ACA, it seems that trump has no plan beyond getting rid of it.
What's the plan?
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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Re: Trump withdraws from TPP
Sanders praises Trump for nixing TPP, ‘delighted to work with him’ on pro-worker policies.
Well, yeah. Bernie Sanders was, is, and will always be about policy. Bernie opposed the TPP from the start. The problem is that most of Trump's tribal members favor the TPP. Could be trouble under the tent.
I think you make the mistake of supporting your chosen tribal leader without regard to policies they may or may not promote. If Trump favored the TPP how would you judge that, Common? I support ideas and positions first, not people.
Trump said he would support and fund medicare, medicaid, social security. He also said he supports healthcare for everybody and would come down on the pharmaceutical industry and push for the ability to negotiate drug pricing. I support that, too, for example.
On the flipside, I do not support some of his cabinet picks and turning the country into a plutocratic oligarchy or saying "Buy American, Hire American" while his daughter moves her shoe factory from China to Ethiopia for her material gain.
I'm sure you feel the same way.