The New Exchange » Sounds Like Medicare for All to Me, but Who Knows?

Just Fred · 1/15/2017 9:32 pm

Looks like Trump may be considering a little advice from that socialist Bernie Sanders? I'd like to hear from R-tribe members on this one.

President-elect Donald Trump said in a weekend interview that he is nearing completion of a plan to replace President Obama’s signature health-care law with the goal of “insurance for everybody,” while also vowing to force drug companies to negotiate directly with the government on prices in Medicare and Medicaid.

Trump warned Republicans that if the party splinters or slows his agenda, he is ready to use the power of the presidency — and Twitter — to usher his legislation to passage.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

Later in the article he says it won't be a single-payer plan. Ok, I gotta see how this is going to work ..... everybody is going to be covered, it will be cheaper, but the government isn't going to administer it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-vows-insurance-for-everybody-in-obamacare-replacement-plan/2017/01/15/5f2b1e18-db5d-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.c253fcca47c4

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flowergirl · 1/15/2017 10:45 pm

I'll believe it when I see it!

tennyson · 1/16/2017 11:55 am

And MEXICO is going to pay for it !

TheLagerLad · 1/16/2017 2:10 pm

A must read from a year ago.......

5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare

He praised universal healthcare in the first GOP debate in late 2015.

He wrote in his 2000 book, "The America We Deserve"

"We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..

The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."

So yeah, who the hell knows with this guy. He may propose some sort of single payer plan. I can't imagine he would have picked Tom Price as his Health and Human Services Secretary if he wanted to do that, but you can never tell with Trump.

Goose · 1/16/2017 2:18 pm

The current congress would never send trump a single payer bill in any case.
So, he can what he wants.

TheLagerLad · 1/16/2017 2:25 pm

Goose wrote:
The current congress would never send trump a single payer bill in any case.
So, he can what he wants.

I agree in theory and don't think it would happen, but again, who knows? Trump seems to have a lot of pull over a large swath of the GOP congress and Dems would sign on in a second.

With the budget the House and Senate just passed, the GOP obviously doesn't care about the debt and deficit. Why couldn't, at his first state of the union address, Trump throw out a proposal for Universal Coverage?

Edit to add: Remember, this has been a position of Trump's for a long time. He has said the ACA is a disaster, but that was to play to the base Republican position. He has never articulated his "replace" position. I guess he could throw the GOP a curveball.

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tennyson · 1/16/2017 2:27 pm

I want to see HOW they are going to pay for it !

It has been leveled that the ACA is on a death-spiral, but it is kind of the opposite. The thing that keeps it from being a true death spiral was the mandate. Taking that away which the R-tribe wants to do actually DOES put it on a true death spiral. Time magazine had a very good article about this.

I DO hope that something is proposed that is even better than the ACA. The crux of the whole thing will be cost and funding.

BTW, Social Security is currently on a death spiral. It is just a long term (relatively) death spiral.

Goose · 1/16/2017 2:46 pm

TheLagerLad wrote:
Goose wrote:
The current congress would never send trump a single payer bill in any case.
So, he can what he wants.
I agree in theory and don't think it would happen, but again, who knows? Trump seems to have a lot of pull over a large swath of the GOP congress and Dems would sign on in a second.

With the budget the House and Senate just passed, the GOP obviously doesn't care about the debt and deficit. Why couldn't, at his first state of the union address, Trump throw out a proposal for Universal Coverage?

Edit to add: Remember, this has been a position of Trump's for a long time. He has said the ACA is a disaster, but that was to play to the base Republican position. He has never articulated his "replace" position. I guess he could throw the GOP a curveball.

Single payer has been an anathema for conservatives forever. I cannot imagine that they would pass such a bill. It would be like waking up to discover that Mitch McConnell voted to outlaw coal.

Of course, I never thought I'd live to see the day when a republican president would cozy up to a Russian war criminal and get away with it. So, what do I know?

I'll just say that if trump signs a law ushering in single payer health insurance for all Americans regardless of ability to pay,,,,,,,,,,, I might just get one of those hats.
Common might give me his!!!

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tennyson · 1/17/2017 12:20 pm

GOP lawmakers unaware of Trump's health care plan

Is this going to be like Trumps secret plan to defeat ISIS ????

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/congress-obamacare-trump/index.html

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tennyson · 1/19/2017 8:28 am

If you watched any of the weekend talk shows where Pence was trying to explain Trump's plan to replace the ACA you likely saw an uncomfortable (the norm in splainin' Trumps statements) about what the replacement will look like and just how formulated (or NOT) it currently is.

I am sure the GOP in general is very nervous about crafting something that will wind up being or appearing worse than what is in place today.

IF it truly cuts costs across the board for all, then HATS OFF TO THEM. It, however, is almost impossible to do without either extra taxes (which in essence the ACA was declared) or tax incentives which further reduces government income.

Guess we will know the details that the GOP has been working on for 8 years very shortly !

I think they will try to sell it as universal access to health care which is a FAR CRY from universal coverage, but that is just how I see it now. IF that is what it is, it will be pretty much just smoke and mirrors.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/politics/mike-pence-obamacare-interview-insurance-affordable-for-everyone/index.html

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