Goose wrote:

So, it wasn't the Russians.
And even if it was, it was Podesta's fault for being careless.
Reminds me of how the defense used to handle rape cases.

Whoa, dude! Talk about apples and oranges.


 

TheLagerLad wrote:

Goose wrote:

So, it wasn't the Russians.
And even if it was, it was Podesta's fault for being careless.
Reminds me of how the defense used to handle rape cases.

Whoa, dude! Talk about apples and oranges.


 

Has to be the thread winner! 

Well, it's seems that not all conservatives are stupid.

Trump Attacks of U.S. Intelligence on Russia Unnerve Lawmakers

President-elect increases criticism of agencies on Twitter, cites Wikileaks editor Julian Assange over Russian involvement

The Wall Street Journal

WASHINGTON—President-elect Donald Trump’s increasingly heated attacks against U.S. intelligence agencies and his continuing praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin have unnerved lawmakers from both parties, with some questioning his goals in dealing with a top U.S. adversary.

Mr. Trump’s animosity toward intelligence agencies has intensified in recent weeks after the Central Intelligence Agency and others reached an assessment that Russian hackers conducted a cyberattack operation with the goal of helping Mr. Trump win the election.

Mr. Trump previously has questioned the CIA’s expertise, often pointing to faulty intelligence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in 2002 and 2003. But he went several steps further Wednesday morning, when he paraphrased WikiLeaks editor in chief Julian Assange as saying “Russians did not give him the info!”

That Twitter post from Mr. Trump, and a second message posted minutes later, seemed to elevate Mr. Assange’s claims over the consensus assessment of numerous U.S. intelligence agencies as well as Republicans and Democrats in Congress who have access to classified information.

U.S. officials allege that hackers working for the Russian government stole information from Democratic organizations and individuals and transferred the stolen information to WikiLeaks, which publishes leaked materials.

Mr. Assange, in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity aired Tuesday night, responded to questions about whether he received the material from the Russian government or anybody associated with it by saying: “Our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party.” Mr. Assange didn’t address whether the hacking itself was an operation of the Russian government, which U.S. officials have said is known to use outside hackers.

Reacting to the furor, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) on Wednesday morning suggested that Mr. Trump simply wasn’t informed yet of Russia’s actions and needed to be briefed on the latest intelligence.

“Hopefully he will get up to speed on what is happening on what Russia has or has not done and be better informed,” Mr. Ryan said on the Hugh Hewitt radio program.

Asked about Mr. Assange, Mr. Ryan called him a “sycophant for Russia. He leaks, he steals, and compromises national security.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) told CNN that Mr. Trump’s dismissal of the U.S. intelligence community’s assessments about Russia’s hacking were “very disturbing, quite frankly.”

“This was done by the Russians and I hope by Friday Mr. Trump will come to that realization,” he said.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R., Ark.), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC, “I have a lot more faith in our intelligence officers serving around the world and the very smart and experienced analysts that we have here in the nation’s capital than I do in people like Julian Assange, I can tell you that much.”

TheLagerLad wrote:

Goose wrote:

Hey, I don't know how careful, or not the DNC was, but let's not go down the road of "They had it coming".
We need to look at the big picture. Our new President seems to be going out of his way to humiliate - even to the point of lying about a meeting - his own government intelligence agencies, while singing the praises of a guy who hardly has the best interests of the nation at heart. All because of his own insecurities.
This is without precedent, and portends disaster.

If people want to express concern, or express criticism of the DNC security apparatus, fine. That's one thing.
But, the president elect, conservative media, and posters are doing quite another. They are embracing a guy that they thought should have been in prison a year or so ago, and blaming the victim for being relatively easy to victimize,,,,, because their guy won an election.

Let's not go down a bunny trail. All I said was that Assange was correct in saying that Podesta was fooled by a type of social engineering that a teenage could easily execute. I stand by that. 

I also stand by the fact that cyber security was overlooked by the Clinton campaign and it very well could have cost her the election. As someone who didn't want Donald Trump to become president, I'm kind of pissed off about that.

And as for Assange, I completely agree that there is a huge chunk of the GOP/Conservative body politic that have changed their tune on him and that shows crass, ugly hypocrisy.

I also kinda remember Assange being revered by liberals in the late 2000's when he was dumping information on the Bush administrations failures in Iraq. 

Whoa, Nellie, hold the phone.
I remember Assange being praised by the likes of gadflies like Bill maher, and Michael Moore.
That's a far cry from Liberals.
 

All of that is a distraction from the topic.