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1/02/2017 1:46 pm  #1


Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

What a failed city on so many levels!

Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades


Strict gun control obviously works.?   NOT! 

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/01/chicago-had-762-homicides-in-2016-most-in-two-decades/#more-197274

That strict gun control in Chicago has obviously worked. America’s third largest city had 762 homicides in 2016, the most in two decades and more than New York and Los Angeles combined. It also saw 3,500 shooting incidents, which is 1,100 more than it had in 2015.

From WGN:
According to the Chicago Police Department, there were 762 murders in the city in 2016 and 3,550 shooting incidents with 4,331 shooting victims. A department spokesman says more than 80% of the fatal and non-fatal shooting victims were previously identified by police as being likely to be involved in an act of gun violence, either as a victim or an offender.Most of the murders occurred on the city’s South and West Sides.


  The police department also “recovered 8,300 illegal guns in 2016, a 20 percent increase from the previous year.”It does not help that Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson remains delusional about guns and the gun laws in Illinois.

From The Associated Press:
He also said it’s becoming clearer to criminals that they have little to fear from the criminal justice system.“In Chicago, we just don’t have a deterrent to pick up a gun,” he said. “Any time a guy stealing a loaf of bread spends more time pre-trial in jail than a gun offender, something is wrong.”Johnson, who has for months complained about Illinois’ lax gun laws, said he thinks more and more gang members are arming themselves because the price for being caught is small compared to other large cities. He said gang members he has spoken to consider the court system “a joke.”

Um, okay, bro. LAX gun laws?! Is he insane? First off, for the longest time, no one could purchase a firearm in the city. In 2014, a judge ruled that unconstitutional and reversed the law. But of course the Chicago officials have done all they can to make sure Chicago citizens have a tough time purchasing firearms legally to protect themselves. They restricted gun shops to certain parts of the city and videotape every purchase. A citizen can only purchase one gun every 30 days.

The state of Illinois requires a person to undergo a 16-hour test to obtain a conceal carry license, which is one of the longest in the nation. The purchaser must also wait 72 hours for a handgun and 24 hours for a rifle or shotgun.How can he blame the lax gun laws when officials have kept gun shops 99% out of the city?! This just goes to show that criminals will find a way to obtain a gun no matter how many laws stand in their way.

But as Heather Mac Donald, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author on The War on Cops, points out in The New York Post, the stats also go in hand “with the de-policing and decriminalization movements sweeping the country.” The officers have backed off since “maintaining control of the streets constitutes racial oppression.”

She wrote:
Arrests are down 28 percent this year in the Windy City, the lowest since at least 2001, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, and less than half what they were in 2010. Drug arrests are down by half. Pedestrian stops were down 82 percent by early fall.—The department is de-emphasizing Broken Windows policing, Johnson told the Chicago Sun-Times over the weekend, to target what’s “really hurting Chicago right now, and this is the gun violence.” Making low-level narcotics arrests likely wouldn’t affect the gun violence, he said.But that distinction between serious crime and an allegedly less urgent breakdown in public order is specious. The best way to get gangbangers under control is to maintain street order.

In Baltimore, drug arrests plummeted after the Freddie Gray anti-cop race riots in April 2015. Shootings exploded as a result. After the Obama Justice Department blasted the Baltimore Police Department in August 2016 for its practice of “clearing the corners” of large groups of teens, small business owners and residents in West Baltimore begged the cops to clear the corners again, because crime and drug-dealing had spiked so much.

 Back in October, Johnson also admitted that his cops have second-guessed themselves in fear of becoming the next viral video after a cop did not defend herself against a man who beat her unconscious.

It’s also fitting that President Barack Obama, one of the most anti-gun presidents we have endured, will deliver his farewell speech in Chicago on January 10. After all, he has called on Congress to use Chicago’s gun laws as an example when drafting new anti-gun laws.
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

1/02/2017 2:18 pm  #2


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

Tragic.
How would you address this?
I mean, other than making some weak attempt to blame it on Obama?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/02/2017 6:47 pm  #3


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

legalinsurrection.com

One of the most trusted, unbiased, and verifiable news sources in the world . . . I've gotta believe it and stand by the claim that Barack Obama is the sole & root cause of all the gun related violence in Chicago.

Get real Common . . . Sheesh ! ! !

 

1/02/2017 9:42 pm  #4


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

I am sure the incoming administration will fix everything ! 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

1/03/2017 7:08 am  #5


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

Maybe the new administration could pass out more guns.
By legalinsurrection's reckoning they just haven't got enough guns in the windy city.

Brilliant, common. Brilliant.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/03/2017 8:21 am  #6


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

ANYONE who wants a gun in Chicago can get one. THAT is the elephant in the room that the ones that want to make hay out of the deaths (pretty much a cheap shot in my estimation and excuse the pun). Chicago is not in a vacuum from surrounding vicinities and if anyone has paid attention to really understanding that they would understand that no matter what laws are in effect, IF there are easy workarounds it is almost impossible to restrict guns in such an environment. 

As a matter of fact the PRESENCE of excess guns is one of the major reasons for the homicides as any gangbanger who wants a gun can get one. 

Also when you look at the gun deaths per population, Clicago is not at the top of the list. 

Chicago has a LOT of problems that need to be addressed and this is just a diversion from really adressing them. 

Want to understand why there are so many illegal guns in Chicago, Just do your research. I am SURE it will NOT be on the NRA sites !!!

 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

1/03/2017 9:05 am  #7


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

tennyson wrote:

ANYONE who wants a gun in Chicago can get one. THAT is the elephant in the room that the ones that want to make hay out of the deaths (pretty much a cheap shot in my estimation and excuse the pun). Chicago is not in a vacuum from surrounding vicinities and if anyone has paid attention to really understanding that they would understand that no matter what laws are in effect, IF there are easy workarounds it is almost impossible to restrict guns in such an environment. 

As a matter of fact the PRESENCE of excess guns is one of the major reasons for the homicides as any gangbanger who wants a gun can get one. 

Also when you look at the gun deaths per population, Clicago is not at the top of the list. 

Chicago has a LOT of problems that need to be addressed and this is just a diversion from really adressing them. 

Want to understand why there are so many illegal guns in Chicago, Just do your research. I am SURE it will NOT be on the NRA sites !!!

 

That would require that the gun "enthusiast" to be willing to accept the idea that they may discover some fact that they do not want to see.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/03/2017 9:26 am  #8


Re: Chicago Had 762 Homicides in 2016, Most in Two Decades

First things first, we need to recognize the sadness of one major city suffering through that many murders. Certainly there are many factors that create that type of environment and my guess is either relaxing or increasing gun laws ain't going to solve the root cause of the problem.

Secondly, I'd like to know the numbers of the types of people who were murdered in Chicago.

How many of those murdered were involved in gang or drug activity versus how many were law abiding citizens who were killed solely because they could not obtain a gun for self-defense?

I kind of get the feeling that we use Chicago as a convenient straw man in the gun debate when access to self-defense via a gun isn't the primary issue.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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