Yeah.  I hope the millions who voted for Trump who are covered under the ACA are prepared to again go uninsured.  Maybe some will even die for lack of medical insurance or money to pay for it on their own.  What a great government we now have!

flowergirl wrote:

Yeah.  I hope the millions who voted for Trump who are covered under the ACA are prepared to again go uninsured.  Maybe some will even die for lack of medical insurance or money to pay for it on their own.  What a great government we now have!

“If sheep elect wolves to be their shepherds, then they deserve to be eaten.” 

Tarnation wrote:

I seem to recall a hurried Congressional  vote during a heavy northeast snowstorm in December of 2009 to pass the ACA.   The vote was delayed because swing vote Sen. Joe Lieberman of CT could not get to DC by ground or by air.

Congress and the public were told to pass this telephone-directory thick legislation without studying it--worry about the details later.

Can you say, "deja vu?"

The difference here is that the Republicans are basically doing a" Replace and Dawdle".

Meaning they'll pass a repeal but sunset it in three or four years.

Meaning its good politically but only half the job is done.

I think even the most anti-ACA person would still admit that there is some good in it.

And by letting the "replace" part of it hang out there, the Republicans are putting a level of uncertainty out there that isn't good for consumers or providers.

And that is a legitimate concern everyone should have.

Here's another good thing.
Remember those coal miners that Trump cares so much about?

Apparently a provision in the ACA makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease to get disability benefits..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/27/these-coal-country-voters-backed-trump-now-theyre-worried-about-losing-obamacare/?utm_term=.32056e855145

Tarnation wrote:

TheLagerLad wrote:

I think even the most anti-ACA person would still admit that there is some good in it.

OK, you know me pretty well, and I'm taking the bait!

Two good--correction--GREAT things:

1)  Eliminating "pre-existing condition" exclusions.

2)  Allowing adult children to be carried on parents' policies until age 26.

Two bad things:

1)  Absolutely no attempt at Tort reform.

2)  Absolutely no reining in or restricting of prescription drug advertising.
 

The bad things you list are minor, in my opinion, compared to the creation of three size fits all insurance plans now available that severely limits the personalization of health plans and jacks up costs on those who don't qualify for subsidies.

As for the good things, I agree but they are just pieces of a carefully constructed program. If you take away the individual mandate for example, you may not be able to keep "the good things" because it throws the actuarial tables the insurance companies use all out of whack.

Look, if the people have spoken and they are asking congress to get rid of the ACA, so be it. They have every right to do so. But what they can't do is say they are repealing the ACA and then say they'll get to some sort of new version of it down the road. They owe it to the people to lay out an end to end plan now.