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12/19/2016 2:00 pm  #1


Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer 'in revenge for Aleppo'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-ambassador-turkey-seriously-injured-9485836

Russia's ambassador to Turkey has been assassinated by an off-duty police officer in front of terrified witnesses allegedly in retaliation for the crisis in Aleppo.
The gunman -smartly dressed in a black suit and tie - reportedly shouted "Allahu Akbar" and said in Turkish "We die in Aleppo, you die here" after shooting Ambassador Andrei Karlov in the back.

The attacker was fatally shot by police after killing Mr Karlov and wounding at least three others in what Russia's Foreign Ministry has called "an act of terrorism".Mr Karlov, 62, was delivering a speech at an art gallery in the capital of Ankara when he was shot from behind in an attack caught on camera.
 


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12/19/2016 2:11 pm  #2


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

What effect do you think it will have Russo-Turkish relations?


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12/19/2016 4:51 pm  #3


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

We may see more of these type of reprisals on Russia in various venues for their apparent involvement with Syria in Aleppo (and elsewhere). 

 


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12/19/2016 5:43 pm  #4


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

It appears from early reports and statements this will have a minimal impact on Turkish-Russian relations.  With Russia's emerging relations in the middle east with Syria, Turkey and Iran, things may even get worse in this region of the world.

 

12/19/2016 8:41 pm  #5


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

I watched a 60 Minutes report from Aleppo yesterday. It was horrifying to see the video of Syrian forces, with the support of the Russian army, destroy the town and kill the people of the town.

While I  certainly feel bad for the Ambassador and his family (no one deserves to die like he did and I warn against watching the video of the murder that's floating around) I wonder if we'll see more direct attacks against Russian officials by Syrian sympathizers.

And I also wonder if that's a bad thing.


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12/20/2016 5:31 am  #6


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

Blowback.

“I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.”


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12/20/2016 9:18 am  #7


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

TheLagerLad wrote:

I watched a 60 Minutes report from Aleppo yesterday. It was horrifying to see the video of Syrian forces, with the support of the Russian army, destroy the town and kill the people of the town.

While I certainly feel bad for the Ambassador and his family (no one deserves to die like he did and I warn against watching the video of the murder that's floating around) I wonder if we'll see more direct attacks against Russian officials by Syrian sympathizers.

And I also wonder if that's a bad thing.

I also saw the 60 Minutes show. One part was about the White Helmets group that frantically tries to find survivors after the indiscriminate civilian bombing. Anyone seeing these atrocities carried out by the Assad regime and supported by the Russians and not feel contempt for them has to be inhuman. I understand the fierce reaction that we have seen. I expect we will see more. It is unfortunately what keeps war and the underlying hatred alive. If you did not see the 60 Minutes episode which I posted in another topic, here it is. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-white-helmets
 

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12/20/2016 9:20 am  #8


Re: Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated by police officer

tennyson wrote:

TheLagerLad wrote:

I watched a 60 Minutes report from Aleppo yesterday. It was horrifying to see the video of Syrian forces, with the support of the Russian army, destroy the town and kill the people of the town.

While I certainly feel bad for the Ambassador and his family (no one deserves to die like he did and I warn against watching the video of the murder that's floating around) I wonder if we'll see more direct attacks against Russian officials by Syrian sympathizers.

And I also wonder if that's a bad thing.

I also saw the 60 Minutes show. One part was about the White Helmets group that frantically tries to find survivors after the indiscriminate civilian bombing. Anyone seeing these atrocities carried out by the Assad regime and supported by the Russians and not feel contempt for them has to be inhuman. I understand the fierce reaction that we have seen. I expect we will see more. It is unfortunately what keeps war and the undierlying hatred alive. If you did not see the 60 Minutes episode which I posted in another topic, here it is. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-white-helmets
 

 
I did not see the 60 minutes piece yet.
But, there was a lot of buzz about it at work yesterday. Seemed very distressing to people and a real wake up call.


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