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12/16/2016 7:55 am  #1


Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Voter fraud in Detroit? Could not happen? Wait a minute.... 

Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

Detroit’s mismatched votes

Here is a breakdown of the irregularities in Detroit’s 662 precincts:

236
precincts in balance — equal numbers of voters counted by workers and machines

248
precincts with too many votes and no explanation (77 were 1 over; 62 were 2 over, 37 were 3 over, 20 were 4 over, 52 were 5 or more over).

144
precincts with too few votes and no explanation (81 were 1 under, 29 were 2 under; 19 were 3 under; 7 were 4 under; 8 were 5 or more under)

34
precincts out of balance but with an explanation


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

12/16/2016 8:04 am  #2


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Stop the presses!
In 392 precincts  machine counts were off by one vote.
Evidence of massive fraud by those, those,, urban people!
We had better get on top of this.

Now, massive inteference in the election by Russia?
Never happened. Nothing to be concerned about.
Just focus on the shiny object, and move along,,,,,

Last edited by Goose (12/16/2016 8:09 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/16/2016 8:04 am  #3


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

How do you propose the problem be corrected?

 

12/16/2016 8:05 am  #4


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Just Fred wrote:

How do you propose the problem be corrected?

 
Since the popular vote count apparenly does not matter, why bother fixing it at all?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/16/2016 8:10 am  #5


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Jeez . . . This proves, without a shadow of a doubt, that voter fraud is, indeed, rampant.

Or that people moved and precinct voter rolls were not updated in a timely manner.

Or that the over and under numbers in the various precincts pretty much balance out. Maybe poll workers allowed people who showed up at the improper location, but were cleared to vote.

This brings up questions that should be answered. Like, are poll workers properly trained? Do the ballots cast total the proper number of registered voters? Are registered voter names compared with the over/under votes? Can a difference of 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 votes over or under the perceived number of votes in 392 precincts be enough to swing the election in favor of Donald Trump?

Last edited by Rongone (12/16/2016 8:14 am)

 

12/16/2016 9:53 am  #6


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

... people moved and precinct voter rolls were not updated in a timely manner.

Actually that is an issue that needs to be corrected.  Anyway, let's fix it, and btw, it might be a good idea to look into election issues involving foreign countries messing with the system.  Just sayin'.
 

Last edited by Just Fred (12/16/2016 9:54 am)

 

12/16/2016 10:15 am  #7


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Goose wrote:

Stop the presses!
In 392 precincts  machine counts were off by one vote.
Evidence of massive fraud by those, those,, urban people!
We had better get on top of this.

Now, massive inteference in the election by Russia?
Never happened. Nothing to be concerned about.
Just focus on the shiny object, and move along,,,,,

Yeah, sounds like a "Don't look there, look over here" 
 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

12/16/2016 12:15 pm  #8


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Goose wrote:

Just Fred wrote:

How do you propose the problem be corrected?

 
Since the popular vote count apparenly does not matter, why bother fixing it at all?

Grow up! We have used the electoral college for a long time. All the pissing and moaning
 from the left about the EC is getting old from. Hillary lost! 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
     Thread Starter
 

12/16/2016 12:17 pm  #9


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
     Thread Starter
 

12/16/2016 12:20 pm  #10


Re: Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

Common Sense wrote:

Goose wrote:

Just Fred wrote:

How do you propose the problem be corrected?

 
Since the popular vote count apparenly does not matter, why bother fixing it at all?

Grow up! We have used the electoral college for a long time. All the pissing and moaning
 from the left about the EC is getting old from. Hillary lost! 

Knockoff off the personal attacks.

Let's get back on topic, shall we?
You have indirect evidence that the vote count in Detroit might be off by 0.16 percent of the 248,000 ballots cast.
If you find that noteworthy, how do you reconcile that view with your complete disbelief at the charges in election meddling by Russia alleged by both the CIA and NSA?
Are you only willing to look at that which you want to see?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

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