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11/14/2016 7:01 pm  #1


A Racist Goes to the White House

Critics See Stephen Bannon, Trump’s Pick for Strategist, as Voice of Racism



WASHINGTON — Civil rights groups, Democrats and some Republican Party strategists on Monday denounced President-elect Donald J. Trump’s decision to appoint Stephen K. Bannon to a top White House position, warning that Mr. Bannon represents nationalist and racist views that should be rejected by the incoming president.

Congressional Republicans remained largely silent about the decision, choosing to instead praise Mr. Trump’s announcement that Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, will become the new White House chief of staff. In an interview on Public Radio International, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the Republican majority leader in the House, said he would “not prejudge” Mr. Trump’s choice.

At Trump Tower in Manhattan, where Mr. Trump is said to be continuing work on the transition, Kellyanne Conway, a key adviser, defended Mr. Bannon, describing him as the “general of this campaign” and saying that “people should look at the full résumé.”

Ms. Conway added: “He has got a Harvard business degree. He’s a Naval officer. He has success in entertainment.” She called him a “brilliant tactician.”

Ms. Conway rejected criticism that Mr. Bannon has a connection to right-wing, nationalist views or that he would bring them to the White House as Mr. Trump’s chief strategist.

“I’m personally offended that you think I would manage a campaign where that would be one of the going philosophies,” she told reporters assembled in the lobby of Mr. Trump’s office building.

President Obama is scheduled to speak to the nation during a news conference Monday afternoon. Ahead of his appearance, a chorus of critics took to Twitter to lament what they said was a frightening normalization of the fringe views that Mr. Bannon promoted as the chairman of Breitbart News. The site has for years given voice to anti-Semitic, racist and white nationalist ideology.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations said Mr. Bannon’s selection “sends the disturbing message that anti-Muslim conspiracy theories and white nationalist ideology will be welcome in the White House.”
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Jewish leaders and supporters of Israel expressed alarm at Mr. Bannon’s appointment, pointing to anti-Semitic writings on the Breitbart website and to allegations from Mr. Breitbart’s ex-wife that he had made anti-Semitic comments about the students at his daughter’s school.

“In his roles as editor of the Breitbart website and as a strategist in the Trump campaign, Mr. Bannon was responsible for the advancement of ideologies antithetical to our nation, including anti-Semitism, misogyny, racism and Islamophobia,” said Rabbi Jonah Dov Pesner, the director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. “There should be no place for such views in the White House.”
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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

11/14/2016 7:59 pm  #2


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

Horrible pick for UNITY of our nation ! 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

11/14/2016 10:42 pm  #3


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I don't know if any of you watched the Rachelle Madow show tonight, and if not, if there's a video of it somewhere to watch, but her talk about Bannon made me sick to the stomach.  Just a couple of highlights--he beat up his wife then threatened her and the children if she showed up at his trial. She disappeared and couldn't be found and the charges were dropped.  They continued their fighting and squabbles including where their daughters should go to school because there were too many Jewish books in a school library and in another school there were too many Jews in attendance.
So we have a maniac elected to the president of the U. S. and leader of the free world who has absolutely NO experience of any kind in government who now has chosen two individuals to be in charge of the White House and advise the maniac, neither of which have one iota of experience in any government.  Worse yet, one is a wife beater, has ties to white nationalists and is a hate merchant and the equivalent of a tabloid publisher.  And on top of all this the elected maniac refuses to place his business in a blind trust but instead allow his children to run it and wants them to have security clearance.  My god--can it get any worse?  I'm counting on it. 

 

11/15/2016 5:41 am  #4


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

From the Mouth of our New White House Strategist

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http://gizmodo.com/10-headlines-from-the-white-houses-new-chief-strategist-1788935071

10 Headlines About Science and Tech From the White House's New Chief Strategist

 


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11/15/2016 7:27 am  #5


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

Geez, this guy sounds flat out dangerous.  Yet the right wing bitches and whines about protesters.

 

11/15/2016 8:06 am  #6


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

Trump's Goebbels ?

You decide after reading this article from The Atlantic:


The Radical Anti-Conservatism of Stephen Bannon


Donald Trump’s campaign manager wants to destroy the left. And the GOP nominee is just the most recent vessel of convenience in his consequences-be-damned crusade.

Molly Ball

Stephen Bannon, who recently took over as Donald Trump’s campaign manager, once gave an interview, while promoting his 2010 film, “Fire From the Heartland: the Awakening of the Conservative Woman,” where he argued that Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Ann Coulter pose an existential threat to the left.

“These women cut to the heart of the progressive narrative,” he explained. “That's one of the unintended consequences of the women's liberation movement––that, in fact, the women that would lead this country would be feminine, they would be pro-family, they would have husbands, they would love their children. They wouldn't be a bunch of dykes that came from the 7 Sisters schools."

The quote captures a key attribute of the former U.S. Navy officer, whose stints at Georgetown University, Harvard Business School, and Goldman Sachs afforded a foothold at the core of America’s elite, enabling him to launch a film career that began with a Sean Penn collaboration before segueing into polemic right-wing documentaries.

His films, like the web content that Bannon would later oversee at Breitbart.com, which he took over after the untimely death of its eponymous founder, often appear to stand for something––for Ronald Reagan, the subject of one of Bannon’s early efforts, In the Face of Evil; or for Sarah Palin, who got her own standalone biopic; or for the Tea Party, which Bannon would frequently laud in the years after it began, praising Senators Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee, even as he excoriated the GOP establishment, declaring, “What we need to do is bitch-slap the Republican Party.”

But the animating spirit of Bannon’s projects, including Breitbart.com, is anti-leftism. That is where his venom and animus most surfaces, whether expressed by lashing out at “a bunch of dykes” from northeastern colleges, or union organizers, or Barack Obama, or those who don’t fight leftists as Bannon believes they should. Like an eager Iraq War hawk circa 2002, Bannon is so dominated by a desire to wage war and vanquish his enemy that he cannot think clearly about damage wrought by his destructive, polarizing approach or the long term consequences.

In that sense, Bannon is radically anti-conservative, with no apparent regard for custom or continuity or prudence or the need to fear and restrain populist passions.

He has allied with Donald Trump against Tea Party politicians he formerly lauded and conservative intellectuals like George Will and Charles Krauthammer, who he once praised, because for him, most on the right were never allies to engage in a cautious, constructive project. They were inconvenient obstacles that lay in the way of fighting the real enemy––a Belgium to blitzkrieg through en route to the real battle.

This anti-left focus was illustrated by Bannon’s telling responses to the 2008 financial crisis and the ensuing bailouts. Despite his Goldman Sachs past, he repeatedly harkened back to those events as if they radicalized him, aptly noting that they constituted unconscionable crony capitalism in a country where the middle class is struggling. He even expressed worry about young people, noting “70 percent of our college graduates are either unemployed or underemployed––we’re in a crisis.”

Yet the big banks were never the focus of his animus.

"Goldman Sachs isn’t the firm it once was when I worked for it,” he explained in a gentle 2010 critique, but “is still one of the building blocks of our capitalist society."

In contrast, the following autumn, when protesters outraged by the bailouts descended on Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, inspiring a movement that took hold around the country, Bannon did make the Occupy movement the subject of a hostile film.

Released just prior to Election 2012, it savaged the protests. “After making the Occupy movie, when you finish watching the film, you want to take a hot shower,” he said that October. “You want to go home and shower because you’ve just spent an hour and fifteen minutes with the greasiest, dirtiest people you will ever see.”

An entire ecosystem of irresponsible finance industry professionals had created toxic mortgage-backed securities, given them egregiously misleading ratings, brought about a global catastrophe, and left millions of Americans worse off. Occupy Wall Street was mostly underemployed young people who never wielded enough power to do anyone harm. Still, Bannon’s visceral disgust turned to hippy-bashing soon after they set up camp in Zuccotti Park. He chose to target a movement that, like it or not, had grievances he shared and that caused no significant harms.   

This is a representative story in that Bannon’s visceral hatred of the left and self-righteous desire to destroy it frequently appears to overwhelm whatever other moral or ideological beliefs he holds. To the question, “What should Donald Trump’s position on immigration be?” it is not surprising that the answer, now that Bannon runs the campaign, seems to be whatever might boost the candidate’s poll numbers, regardless of how inconsistent that is with what came before.

The desire to destroy the left informs the series of alliances he has made, too.

When Sarah Palin seemed like the most viable vehicle, Bannon urged conservative audiences across the country to consider her a potential presidential candidate in 2012.

When the optics of Occupy Wall Street seemed like a promising way to rally wealthy conservatives and Tea Partiers in advance of the election, Bannon tried to exploit that moment with scare tactics so overwrought as to seem laughable in hindsight*.

Circa 2013, Bannon continued to believe that the only way to destroy the left was a populist uprising of a sort that requires the destruction of the GOP establishment.

“We don’t believe there is a functional conservative party in this country and we certainly don’t think the Republican Party is that,” he told a gathering of conservatives in Washington, D.C.  “It’s going to be an insurgent, center-right populist movement that is virulently anti-establishment, and it’s going to continue to hammer this city, both the progressive left and the institutional Republican Party.”

He attributed Breitbart.com’s exponential traffic growth to “showing people that they can have a voice and you can channel that anger, where before you were defenseless. You can take that anger. And by the way, I think anger is a good thing. This country is in a crisis. And if you’re fighting to save this country, if you’re fighting to take this country back, it’s not going to be sunshine and patriots. It’s going to be people who want to fight. I mean, Andrew Breitbart was all about the fight.”

Internally, he said, Breitbart calls itself  “The Fight Club,” a reference to a novel-turned-Hollywood-blockbuster about a mentally disturbed white-collar worker. He comes to lead a group of unfulfilled men with aggression issues. They start out fighting each other in basements, morph into a cult, and carry off an act of domestic terrorism. The lead character, who ultimately realizes in horror that his split-personality delusions have led him to become a monster, decides to kill himself.

If that dark streak isn’t enough to portend Breitbart.com’s subsequent embrace of Trump, Bannon added in 2013 that winning requires harnessing outrage, which is needed “to give the system a shock” thereby bring about a better “negotiating position.” What better vessel for stoking outrage than a billionaire with a desperate need to be at the center of attention and decades of practice saying outrageous things to get it?

To see how much tension there is between the vessel Bannon is exploiting and the substantive ends Bannon states he hopes to achieve, consider Bannon’s foreign policy views, recalling that he was shaped by the Navy and a masters at Georgetown, an institution with deep ties to the Washington national security establishment.

Here he is speaking in 2014 about Russia’s aggression toward the Ukraine––Bannon felt that President Obama wasn’t doing enough to counter the rival power:

The Russians are very serious about this. They’re not going to let Ukraine fall into the sphere of the United States and the European Union without a fight. And we’re going to see in a couple weeks what they’re prepared to do about it and what we’re prepared to do. And I think it’s very scary, whether you’re a liberal Democrat or a right-win Republican, the president has not comported himself with the gravitas you need when you’re up against really tough hombres like Vladamir Putin and his guys. I think it’s going to get a lot more serious before it gets better.

What he said over the last couple days is really quite infantile… It’s very ironic this happens in the same weak Obama’s Secretary of Defense is going to cut the army to less than World War II levels... They’re out to cut America’s core strength. And part of that core strength is our military apparatus. And they’re doing everything possible to make the military weaker. We’re going to start to see the payoff for that in places like Ukraine when the Soviets can have force projection and we’re sitting there basically hapless: we don’t have the political will; we don’t have the leadership; and we don’t have the military force projection to really do anything, we have to stand by helplessly.

This seems to be an earnest expression of alarm at an American president who, in Bannon’s eyes, possesses neither the knowledge nor the inclination to aggressively counter Russia. Bannon felt an assertion of American strength was geopolitically important. And yet, Bannon would soon turn Breitbart.com into a propaganda arm of the Trump campaign, and then join that campaign itself–– never mind that Trump had spoken admiringly of Putin, suggested he might do nothing if Putin seized neighboring territory, cast doubts on America’s commitment to NATO, demonstrated utter ignorance of events in the Ukraine, and, as if that weren’t enough, employed a campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who “was tangled up in a corruption inquiry and designated to receive millions in secret cash payments from the party of a pro-Russian leader in Ukraine he had helped to elect.”

Bannon is eager to elevate Trump to the presidency, despite a record on a matter Bannon himself finds very important that could hardly be more alarming by Bannon’s standards.

No matter. Like Palin before, Bannon sees Trump as a means to taking over the right so that it can be remade in a manner most suited, in his view, to vanquishing the left.

G.K. Chesterton once offered sage advice to all who see flaws or corruption and seek reform:

In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.”

Bannon is the antithesis of this intelligent reformer.

“This is going to be a very nasty, long, protracted fight,” he told that same 2013 meeting of conservatives. “There is a permanent political class in this city that dominates it, and by that dominates the country. And there is a dedicated group of libertarians and grassroots conservatives and Tea Party conservatives and limited government conservatives that are here to destroy that. And that is going to be ugly tough work. That’s just reality. People are not going to give up an aristocracy easily.”

But the Trumpist movement that Bannon fueled and later joined has been so thoughtless, in its zeal to wage war on its enemy, that it alienated libertarians; divided the Tea Party; stripped the principles that motivate limited government conservatives from the core of the Republican Party; and put America in the unenviable position of possibly handing off its foreign policy and nuclear arsenal to a geopolitically ignorant, erratic, thin-skinned man who picks needless fights and is manifestly unqualified to command a campaign staff, never mind a military.

Bannon may be attacking an “aristocracy.” But his methods are as responsible as a Jacobin. Trump is not his idea of a good president of the United States. Trump is his guillotine.

*He told one audience of presumably wealthy, middle-aged conservatives, “We did cross a line this past week on the Occupy Wall Street. Only I believe in the Revolution were there any marches on Tories’ houses. When they left and they marched on Rupert Murdoch’s house, and Jamie Diamond’s house, and Mr. Koch’s house, and there was one other––four houses that they actually marched on––that shows you the types of things that are going to happen.” I am not a fan of marches on the homes of individuals. Put another way I’d have applauded the critique. But in a nation where General Sherman burned his way through the South; where World War I era “patriots” marched on the farms of German Americans, shaking them down for donations to fight the Kaiser;  where the Klu Klux Klan not only marched on the homes of African Americans, but burned crosses on their lawns and dragged them from their beds to lynchings; and where SWAT raids gone wrong are a ubiquitous part of urban life in many communities, Bannon dared to cast fleeting marches on the houses of a few people, none of whom were harmed or even at risk of harm, as a historic rubicon crossed.




Should we be concerned about this guy and how much influence he will have in the Drumpf dynasty ?

From my perspective the answer is a definite "YES".

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11/15/2016 9:03 am  #7


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

He's another madman like Trump.  Do they purposely  collect together--like  a club?  Or does one attract another and another and another like flies on a fly catcher? 

 

11/15/2016 10:40 am  #8


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

Is this the guy who said liberal women are a bunch of dykes?  Since I'm not a Breitbart follower, I've not heard much about him until now.

 

11/15/2016 11:38 am  #9


Re: A Racist Goes to the White House

Just Fred wrote:

Is this the guy who said liberal women are a bunch of dykes?  Since I'm not a Breitbart follower, I've not heard much about him until now.

That's the guy.
He also called Bill kristol a "renegade Jew".

Haters gotta hate.


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11/15/2016 11:53 am  #10


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Associated article which I think is the bigger concern than Bannon the individual, but rather the movement he created.

<all emphasis mine>

Steve Bannon Is Not a Nazi—But Let’s Be Honest about What He Represents

Let’s start with some sense: Steve Bannon is not Josef Goebbels.

That is how Bannon was described recently by French cable news network La Chaîne Info (The Info Channel), and American media have taken up the comparison, particularly in light of Bannon’s appointment as the president-elect’s “chief strategist and senior counselor.” The Huffington Post wailed representatively: “A White Nationalist Is the New White House Chief Strategist.” About Bannon’s personal attitudes, this is hyperbole.

Julia Jones, Bannon’s screenwriting partner in Hollywood for nearly two decades, told the Daily Beast in August, “I never knew the ‘racist Steve’ that’s being reported now. I never heard him make any racist jokes, and his best friend was an African-American who went to [college] with him. . . . I never saw even a hint of racism.” Others have reported the same. Ben Shapiro, who worked under Bannon at his website, Breitbart, until departing earlier this year, wrote on his own site, “I have no evidence that Bannon’s a racist or that he’s an anti-Semite.”

But under Bannon’s aegis, something ugly has taken hold of the Right. In March 2012, Bannon — an investment banker-turned-conservative documentarian — became chairman of Breitbart News. Up to that time, the website had been mischievous but not malicious, reflecting the personality of its founder Andrew Breitbart (a personality that has been subject to gross left-wing revisionism since his death). But under Bannon’s leadership, Breitbart News’s impishness became something else.

When it was not promoting Pravda-esque lies during the campaign season — for example, reporting as “100% vindicated” Trump’s claim that “thousands” of people in New Jersey celebrated the September 11 attacks — the site built up its viewer base by catering to the alt-right, a small but vocal fringe of white supremacists, anti-Semites, and Internet trolls.

In May, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol was labeled a “Renegade Jew.” In September, an article about Trump’s “birther” press conference was accompanied by a picture of Harambe, the gorilla shot dead at the Cincinnati Zoo earlier this year. This summer, Bannon cheerfully informed Mother Jones that Breitbart News had become “the platform for the alt-Right.” (And if you, like Newt Gingrich, believe that the alt-right does not exist, please consult my Twitter feed.)

The Left, with its endless accusations of “racism” and “xenophobia” and the like, has blurred the line between genuine racists and the millions of Americans who voted for Donald Trump because of a desire for greater social solidarity and cultural consensus. It is not “racist” to want to strengthen the bonds uniting citizens to their country.

But the alt-right is not a “fabrication” of the media. The alt-right is a hodgepodge of philosophies that, at their heart, reject the fundamental principle that “all men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.”

The alt-right embraces an ethno-nationalism that has its counterparts in the worst of the European far-right: Golden Dawn in Greece, or Hungary’s Jobbik. (It’s no coincidence that Bannon spent time this summer praising “the women of the Le Pen family” on London radio, referring to the head of France’s National Front and her niece, a FN member of the French Parliament.) And while this by no means excuses smashing shop windows to protest a legitimate election result, as rioters spent the weekend doing in the Pacific Northwest, it’s also the case that not every Trump detractor is as devoid of cerebral matter as Lena Dunham.

If ethnic and religious minorities are worried, it’s in part because Donald Trump and his intimates have spent the last several months winking at one of the ugliest political movements in America’s recent history.

Furthermore, as some on the left have been more attuned to than their conservative counterparts, the problem is not whether Bannon himself subscribes to a noxious strain of political nuttery; it’s that his de facto endorsement of it enables it to spread and to claim legitimacy, and that what is now a vicious fringe could, over time, become mainstream.

The U.S. is not going to see pogroms or “internment camps” spring up in January. But countries require bonds of trust among citizens — including those citizens elected to be leaders. The Left gnawed at those bonds with its thoughtless commitment to cosmopolitan virtues. But the Right threatens to sever them entirely if it continues to court the proponents of ethno-nationalism, or trade in their rhetoric.

Principled conservatives, especially those in leadership positions, have a political and moral duty to condemn, and to work to eradicate, the animus that is the alt-right’s raison d’être, and to uphold the pillars of the American project. That project is more than metaphysical abstractions; but it is also not a simple matter of blut und boden.

No, Steve Bannon is not Josef Goebbels. But he has provided a forum for people who spend their days photoshopping pictures of conservatives into ovens. To conservative and liberal alike, that he has the ear of the next president of the United States (a man of no particular convictions, and loyal to no particular principles) should be a source of grave concern — and an occasion for common cause in the crucial task of the years to come: vigilance.

 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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