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11/11/2016 3:53 pm  #1


Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

WOW !  Guess that is what happens when you have two highly disliked candidates. 

Sad then that we had to wind up with either of them.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turnout-2016/index.html


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11/11/2016 3:58 pm  #2


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

Three months ago Bruni theorized that the trump strategy was to make the race so ugly that turnout would be down


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

11/11/2016 7:45 pm  #3


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

Here everybody thought everyone was rushing to the polls. Kind of sad when you think about it. 

We DO get the government we deserve. 


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11/12/2016 7:51 am  #4


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

Wonder what happened to the massive get the vote out machine that the media claimed Clinton had?
Over and over we heard about the millions and millions of dollars spent and how far ahead of Trump of they were.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

11/12/2016 7:55 am  #5


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

The media got much wrong.
Most notably, the mythical "Latino surge".
That was probably the result of group think and the echo chamber that has replaced good reporting.

Polling organizations will be scrambling to update their methods for changing times.

I would point out that some national polls got pretty close on the popular vote.
It was the battle ground states that they missed

Last edited by Goose (11/12/2016 7:57 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

11/12/2016 10:46 am  #6


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

People generally did not like EITHER candidate. 

Sad that it meant people stayed home rather than voting. 

 


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11/12/2016 11:18 am  #7


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

The USC poll had the election pegged accurately all along.  They will be the go-to poll next time around.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-11/how-the-usc-dornsife-la-times-poll-saw-trump-s-win-coming

Other polls, like Franklin & Marshall, who had Katy McGinty winning by 11%, will fall by the wayside, no longer of any relevance.

 

11/12/2016 11:28 am  #8


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

If I'm understanding the USC poll, they had problems as well.
It looks like it is a national poll.
And it had trump up by 3.
Yet The popular vote is essentially tied.

The poll doesn't seem to take into account state by state tallies and the electoral college.
It might be a happy accident that they predicted the winner

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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

11/12/2016 11:36 am  #9


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

Goose wrote:

If I'm understanding the USC poll, they had problems as well.
It looks like it is a national poll.
And it had trump up by 3.
The popular vote is essentially tied.

The poll doesn't seem to take into account state by state tallies and the electoral college.
It might be a happy accident that they predicted the winner

 
They had Trump by 3, but the margin of error is 3, so in terms of election polls, they pegged it, and their poll was consistent.  It could be a coincidence, we don't really know, I'm just saying that they gained a whole lot of credibility, and they will be highly regarded in the next election.  Polls like F&M on the other hand, they will go away.

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11/12/2016 11:37 am  #10


Re: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016

Did ANY polls predict a lowest in 20 year turnout ?? 

Obviously everyone will be suspicious of polls next time around. 

What we really need to be concerned with is getting candidates (on BOTH sides) that people WANT to vote for. 

 


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