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What Replaces the ACA?
So, what follows the repeal of "Obamacare".
Please, spare me the rant about how awful it is. Simply criticizing it is not a plan.
Republicans, you have the House, Senate, and the Presidency.
What are you going to do?
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Goose wrote:
So, what follows the repeal of "Obamacare".
Please, spare me the rant about how awful it is. Simply criticizing it is not a plan.
Republicans, you have the House, Senate, and the Presidency.
What are you going to do?
Rand Paul was on MSNBC this morning and he indicated that their are about six regulations in the ACA that the Congress will likely repeal in the first week or two of the Trump admin. He did not indicate what those regulations were, other than to say that the regulations were added via executive order, or through the HHS department versus being a part of the original ACA bill.
So I don't see a full repeal of the ACA. It can't happen since the Dems in the Senate will be able to filibuster stuff.
How the repeal of those regulation affect the ACA overall remains to be seen.
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
If the GOP is smart they will rework the ACA. The ACA has not provided low costs for everyone, but without it, the costs would be much higher (or people would go without assuming they could get it - ie will pre-existing conditions be wiped out also).
Finding a suitable solution will be just as much a quagmire for the GOP as it was for the Democrats.
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Why should they replace it? Not one Republican voted for it yet now they are expected to fix it. I told you years ago that it was put in place knowing it would fail and then the Democrats would say it needs to be replaced and about the only option that can replace it is a single payer government option. That's the game Democrats played and hopefully Trump just throws the whole thing out. Trump does have a plan to increase options over state lines, something that was proposed a long time ago. We'll probably have to wait to find out the entire plan.
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Why should they replace it? Not one Republican voted for it yet now they are expected to fix it. I told you years ago that it was put in place knowing it would fail and then the Democrats would say it needs to be replaced and about the only option that can replace it is a single payer government option. That's the game Democrats played and hopefully Trump just throws the whole thing out. Trump does have a plan to increase options over state lines, something that was proposed a long time ago. We'll probably have to wait to find out the entire plan.
Well, 20 million people will lose health insurance coverage if you simply repeal it.
What happens to them?
State lines?
Yea, that should just about do it.
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Why should they replace it? Not one Republican voted for it yet now they are expected to fix it. I told you years ago that it was put in place knowing it would fail and then the Democrats would say it needs to be replaced and about the only option that can replace it is a single payer government option. That's the game Democrats played and hopefully Trump just throws the whole thing out. Trump does have a plan to increase options over state lines, something that was proposed a long time ago. We'll probably have to wait to find out the entire plan.
Well, 20 million people will lose health insurance coverage if you simply repeal it.
What happens to them?
State lines?
Yea, that should just about do it.
Exactly.
And those people will go to the Emergency Rooms as before and not pay and the people with insurance will pick up the tab just like before.
We need a NATIONAL look at health care - how best to deliver it to all and how to control costs (drugs included which have now become a large part of the overall costs)
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Those people still go to the ER. They can't afford the $4000-6000 deductible. What good is having insurance if you can't use it?
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Re: What Replaces the ACA?
Those people still go to the ER. They can't afford the $4000-6000 deductible. What good is having insurance if you can't use it?
That is not accurate
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The high deductible insurance (whether ACA or NOT) is one of the con games of insurance companies in general. Remember that only 10% of people needing medical insurance get it through the ACA. Most still get it through their employers (somewhere about 40%) and some employers are doing exactly the same thing in now offering coverage that has the same problem (very high deductibles). It is NOT just an ACA problem. It is an insurance company issue and consumer education issue. Here is ONE BIG area that our government needs to be involved BIG TIME with regulations. I unfortunately see less regulations and MORE give aways to insurance companies and drug companies.
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BTW, the ACA is so bad that there are right now more people signing up for the ACA than ever before.
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