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10/31/2016 8:31 pm  #1


Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

Donald Trump Used Legally Dubious Method to Avoid Paying Taxes


Donald J. Trump proudly acknowledges he did not pay a dime in federal income taxes for years on end. He insists he merely exploited tax loopholes legally available to any billionaire — loopholes he says Hillary Clinton failed to close during her years in the United States Senate. “Why didn’t she ever try to change those laws so I couldn’t use them?” Mr. Trump asked during a campaign rally last month.

But newly obtained documents show that in the early 1990s, as he scrambled to stave off financial ruin, Mr. Trump avoided reporting hundreds of millions of dollars in taxable income by using a tax avoidance maneuver so legally dubious his own lawyers advised him that the Internal Revenue Service would likely declare it improper if he were audited.

Thanks to this one maneuver — which was later outlawed by Congress — Mr. Trump potentially escaped paying tens of millions of dollars in federal personal income taxes. It is impossible to know for sure because Mr. Trump has declined to release his tax returns, or even a summary of his returns, breaking a practice followed by every Republican and Democratic presidential candidate for more than four decades.

Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s.

Moreover, the tax experts said the maneuver trampled a core tenet of American tax policy by conferring enormous tax benefits to Mr. Trump for losing vast amounts of other people’s money — in this case, money investors and banks had entrusted to him to build a casino empire in Atlantic City.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donald-trump-tax.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Last edited by Goose (10/31/2016 8:32 pm)


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10/31/2016 8:46 pm  #2


Re: Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

The point is more (as was pointed out) that he lost millions of OTHER PEOPLES monies who got paid pennies on the dollar. He is a total slug, NOT a financial genius. His business dealings throughout his career have hurt countless people along the way. 

 

Last edited by tennyson (10/31/2016 8:47 pm)


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10/31/2016 9:43 pm  #3


Re: Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

He belongs in a cell with Bernie Madoff.

 

11/01/2016 7:04 am  #4


Re: Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

There have been other stories regarding Trump's financial dealings and tax avoidance that are far more damning than this one. 

Here, he was technically following the law and the story makes that clear. 

I guess the bottom line for me is that the the tax law needs to be fixed (and in this case it was) to take away these outrageous advantages the ultra rich get.

Does anyone think Trump, Clinton, or the Congress will tackle this?


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

11/01/2016 7:08 am  #5


Re: Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

I think we are on shaky ground concluding anything about Trump's finances.
Because Trump, unlike every other major party candidate in two generations, has refused to release his returns.


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11/01/2016 7:46 am  #6


Re: Trump Tax Dodge Stretched Law "Beyond Recognition"

Goose wrote:

I think we are on shaky ground concluding anything about Trump's finances.
Because Trump, unlike every other major party candidate in two generations, has refused to release his returns.

Agreed. The lack of tax returns alone disqualifies Trump from my vote. 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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