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9/07/2016 8:08 pm  #1


Commander in Chief Forum Thoughts

I missed the bulk of Hillary's talk (guess I will have to look online). What I saw I thought she gave decent answers. 

I watched all of Trump's answers and most left me wondering about specifics which has been a major problem through most of his talks and presentations. The only thing that I heard that got specific is when he talked about the VA and the delays. He wants to allow veterans to be able to go to a private doc IF they have undue wait times. I would like to hear more about that. Might work but could be a huge administrative nightmare as well. It does have merit to consider. Other than that, I thought his answers were weak or evaded the actual question. 

We will see what others here thought. 

Since THIS is the MOST IMPORTANT DUTY of a President, it behoves us to make sure we elect the person that can do this job with their utmost. 

Last edited by tennyson (9/07/2016 8:10 pm)


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

9/07/2016 9:37 pm  #2


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As usual Trump's responses turned into Hilliary (and Obama and Kerry) bashes and as usual the moderator did not stop it immediately and bring him back to the issues at hand.  Lauer was lousy as a moderator.  He's a tv performer and useless for much else.  As for Trump and Hilliary's response she went often went into depth and Trump did his usual dance around the question without really answering it. 

 

9/08/2016 4:52 am  #3


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Lauer was awful.
He spends 10 minutes of Clinton's time on the emails, NOT on Aleppo, or Syria.
Then, when he finally gets to Commander in Chief related stuff - aka ISIS - he tells her to "be brief" because he wasted so much time.

And, is he afraid of Trump? What soft ball questions. Lauer asks the man, "Are you ready to be commander in chief?" 
What is Trump gonna say? What would any candidate say?
You don't assess a person's preparedness by asking them if they are ready and watching how powerfully respond "Yes".
You ask them detailed questions about the task at hand and allow them to demonstrate to people their level of understanding.

Trump was given very generalized questions and was permitted, by Matt Lauer, to get away with very vague answers. Clinton got peppered with specific questions.
Let's face it, Donald Trump is simply held to a lower standard by the press who seem satisfied by an outrageous soundbite. He has a stagggering lack of knowledge on the issues, and is permitted to get away with it.

It was a waste of everyone's time.
Sheesh

Last edited by Goose (9/08/2016 5:12 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/08/2016 5:36 am  #4


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Goose wrote:

Lauer was awful.
He spends 10 minutes of Clinton's time on the emails, NOT on Aleppo, or Syria.
Then, when he finally gets to Commander in Chief related stuff - aka ISIS - he tells her to "be brief" because he wasted so much time.

And, is he afraid of Trump? What soft ball questions. Lauer asks the man, "Are you ready to be commander in chief?" 
What is Trump gonna say? What would any candidate say?
You don't assess a person's preparedness by asking them if they are ready and watching how powerfully respond "Yes".
You ask them detailed questions about the task at hand and allow them to demonstrate to people their level of understanding.

Trump was given very generalized questions and was permitted, by Matt Lauer, to get away with very vague answers. Clinton got peppered with specific questions.
Let's face it, Donald Trump is simply held to a lower standard by the press who seem satisfied by an outrageous soundbite. He has a stagggering lack of knowledge on the issues, and is permitted to get away with it.

It was a waste of everyone's time.
Sheesh

Since I did not hear the first part of the show (only saw the last part of Clinton's interview), I will have to wait and see what I thought of that part,

But, as far of it being a waste of everyone's time. It DID tell me one thing. Trump is in NO WAY qualified to be our commander in chief. 

BTW, even though it was a softball question to ask Trump if he was prepared to be Commander in Chief, Trump's lack of a real response spoke to his total lack of credentials to step up to the plate in being a national leader of the greatestest power on earth. I felt most of his answers about our military, Iraq, and his lack of a strategy was horrid for a person who could become Commander in Chief. 

 

Last edited by tennyson (9/08/2016 5:47 am)


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9/08/2016 5:52 am  #5


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Just another comment... Trump's continued "bromance" (hate to use that cliche' but it really applies) totally shows his naivety about this man. That is dangerous. 


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9/08/2016 6:51 am  #6


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Trump's comment re Putin:
"If he continues to say great things about me, I will say great things about him"

That's how we will conduct foreign policy?
If any thug in the world flatters trump they can do whatever they want?
Sad


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/08/2016 6:53 am  #7


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I agree with flower girl's assessment of the forum.

Today the surrogates of both candidates are re-explaining, clarifying, and emphasizing their candidates remarks and performance. At the same time, they are picking apart and criticizing their opponents responses. Drumpf's surrogates are busier at those tasks than Clinton's staff. The primary reason for all the clarification and attacks is that Drumpf, once again, had no viable plans to offer. He basically said he was a great businessman, the best negotiator in the universe, was very smart, would strengthen the military (although he had no specifics), loved and respected people who currently or previously served in uniform (even though he personally did everything he could do to avoid serving). Again, no viable plans to do anything. The Donald is asking the voters to just trust him and he will do what's right.

Based on his record in business, his ridiculous Twitter rants, his personal attacks on anyone that disagrees with him, his ignorance on international affairs, and his narcissistic attitude, I trust him about as much as I trust Eric Bolling to report factual information.

 

9/08/2016 6:58 am  #8


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I thought Matt Lauer was a weird choice right off the bat.  The guy hosts an entertainment show.  What's with that?  They couldn't find a journalist with some knowledge of national defense?

 

9/08/2016 7:12 am  #9


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Drumpf's surrogates, in particular Newt Gingerich, are out there criticizing Lauer for being biased in favor of Hillary and attacking Drumpf with more difficult questioning.

I thought Matt Lauer was a strange choice for moderator also. I was expecting Lester Holt or Chuck Todd.

Here is an interesting exchange from last night with a funny description of Drumpf's attempt to answer a question without answering a question:

Consider, for example, Trump's Miss Teen South Carolina-level word salad when pressed on whether he really has a plan to beat ISIS, a line of questioning that somehow led Trump into saying he'll probably replace much of the career leadership of the military soon after entering office:

LAUER: But yesterday, you actually told us a little bit about your plan in your speech. You said this. Quote, "We're going to convene my top generals and they will have 30 days to submit a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS." So is the plan you've been hiding this whole time asking someone else for their plan?

TRUMP: No. But when I do come up with a plan that I like and that perhaps agrees with mine, or maybe doesn't — I may love what the generals come back with. I will convene ...

LAUER: But you have your own plan?

TRUMP: I have a plan. But I want to be — I don't want to — look. I have a very substantial chance of winning. Make America great again. We're going to make America great again. I have a substantial chance of winning. If I win, I don't want to broadcast to the enemy exactly what my plan is.

LAUER: But you're going to ...

TRUMP: And let me tell you, if I like maybe a combination of my plan and the generals' plan, or the generals' plan, if I like their plan, Matt, I'm not going to call you up and say, "Matt, we have a great plan." This is what Obama does. "We're going to leave Iraq on a certain day."

LAUER: But you're going to convene a panel of generals, and you've already said you know more about ISIS than those generals do.

TRUMP: Well, they'll probably be different generals, to be honest with you.

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9/08/2016 8:46 am  #10


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I missed the forum, but based on what I have seen from the clips and over twitter, it appears I didn't really miss that much.

Lauer really was a horrible choice. He's not a newsman. He's a glamboy morning show host. It leaves me to wonder if the campaigns negotiated an agreement with NBC to have him moderate because they wanted to subject matter to be relatively light when in reality, a 30 minute segment wasn't going to give anyone much time to dive into the complexity of U.S. foreign policy.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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