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Behind? Says who?
Polls? Tis but a scratch.
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We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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While certainly that was a ha-ha moment, I think it is an indicator for what we're going to see now that the Trump campaign has been Brietbarted.
I think you're going to see a more confrontational stance with the media during these cable news spots. And you're going to hear things along the lines of what Jan Brewer said yesterday when she called Hillary Clinton a "Lying Killer".
I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
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Good grief, that Jan Brewer has definitely embraced the paranoid style of politics.
Disgusting!
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Goose wrote:
Good grief, that Jan Brewer has definitely embraced the paranoid style of politics.
Disgusting!
It is almost like a sickness in politics today. Instead of talking about what people need to care about we go to "third grade" name calling to attempt to win an election. Really ? I guess we deserve what government representatives we vote in.
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Just to be clear lest any conservatives get angry, I did NOT accuse Jan Brewer of having paranoia, or any other mental disease. I said that she was embracing the paranoid style of politics.
American politics has often been an arena for angry minds. In recent years we have seen angry minds at work mainly among extreme right-wingers, who have now demonstrated in the Trump movement just how much political leverage can be got out of the animosities and passions of a small minority.*
In 1964 Richard Hofstadter wrote a ground-breaking essay, The Paranoid Style in American Politics.
Professor Hofstadter wasn't suggesting that anybody was crazy. He was instead describing a political phenomenon in which paranoid modes of expression are used by more or less normal people in order to gain political advantage.
Donald Trump is an intelligent man. He knows that the President was born here. But, Trump knows that a significant majority of the extreme right wants to believe otherwise. They seek to oppose people, not by discussion of policy, but by being told that the person they do not like is illegitimate.
Hofstadter used the term paranoid style simply because no other word adequately evokes the anger, the sense of heated exaggeration, the suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy that we see here.
Examples?
If you suggest that the President is a secret Muslim of Kenyan birth;
If you suggest that the president of the United States literally founded a terrorist group;
If you state that Secretary Clinton wants to abolish the second amendment;
If you refer to Secretary Clinton as a Lying killer,,,
Well, you are engaging in the paranoid style of american politics.
Hope this helps.
* Paraphrasing Hofstadter who originally wrote about Goldwater fans.
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I'm with you Goose. By all accounts, Brewer was actually a fairly decent governor in terms of making the trains run on time and the like.
But her "politics" and the types of public statements make her come off like a psychopath. And it is a shame that some folks, rather than speak on behalf of something, instead have to make wild and unsubstantiated claims against something.
I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
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Two days after Michael Cohen tries to intimidate a reporter and angrily denies that the Trump campaign is in the midst of a shake-up,,,,,,,,, Paul Manafort resigns,,,,
Denial of reality makes your campaign seem like a joke.
And it's a real disservice to Trump fans.
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Two days after Michael Cohen tries to intimidate a reporter and angrily denies that the Trump campaign is in the midst of a shake-up,,,,,,,,, Paul Manafort resigns,,,,
Denial of reality makes your campaign seem like a joke.
And it's a real disservice to Trump fans.
Personally I don't think most of them care about his campaign mess. Either they despise Hillary, are a pull the big R-lever always, or really believe the crap that this man so far has spewed, it won't make a difference to the aforementioned. So, disservice ... well not sure I would use that word. It is really a sad time for Republicans such as myself that would like to see a statesman (Reagan pops to mind) surface in the party. I unfortunately am not holding my breath on that one. It is rather sad in my mind to see the party implode at the National level into what it now has become.
"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"