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8/16/2016 2:39 pm  #1


Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

“When Zillow starts warning about sea level rise, it may be time to start worrying about sea level rise,”




Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change




Climate change is never going to announce itself by name. But this is what we should expect it to look like.

That’s what many scientists, analysts and activists are saying after heavy rains in southern Louisiana have killed at least eight people and forced tens of thousands of residents from their homes, in the latest in a series of extreme floods that have occurred in the United States over the last two years.

That increase in heavy rainfall and the resultant flooding “is consistent with what we expect to see in the future if you look at climate models,” said David Easterling, a director at the National Centers for Environmental Information, which is operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. “Not just in the U.S. but in many other parts of the world as well.”

The flooding in Louisiana is the eighth event since May of last year in which the amount of rainfall in an area in a specified window of time matches or exceeds the NOAA predictions for an amount of precipitation that will occur once every five hundred years, or has a 0.2 percent chance of occurring in any given year.

Louisiana joins five other states, most of them in the South, that have experienced deadly flooding in the last 15 months, including Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina and West Virginia.

In the last three months alone, floods in Maryland, West Virginia and Louisiana have combined to kill dozens of people and damage tens of thousands of homes and vehicles.

The National Weather Service reports that parts of Louisiana have received as much as 31 inches of rain in the last week, a number Dr. Easterling called “pretty staggering,” and one that exceeds an amount of precipitation that his center predicts will occur once every thousand years in the area.

Dr. Easterling said that those sorts of estimates were predicated on the idea that the climate was stable, a principle that has become outdated.

The third National Climate Assessment, released in 2014 by the United States Global Change Research Program, showed that “the amount of rain falling in very heavy precipitation events” had been significantly above average since 1991.

However, the research did not identify the South as one of the areas of greatest concern; the increase was found to be greatest in the Northeast, Midwest and Upper Great Plains regions of the United States.

Some climate researchers warned Tuesday that it was too early to explain why so much of the country has faced sudden flooding.

“It’s really hard to attribute things like this without a larger body of evidence,” said Barry D. Keim, the Louisiana state climatologist. “And, of course, the question keeps coming up: How large does that body of evidence have to get?”

But others said that the situation was quite clear.

“This is exactly what scientists have been predicting,” said the climate activist Bill McKibben. “The basic physics are simple: Warm air holds more water vapor, something that is turning out to be one of the most important facts of the 21st century.”





“And while Louisiana was flooding, there were also huge flood events underway in Moscow (biggest rains in 129 years of record-keeping), the Sudan, Manila, and probably plenty of other places,” he added.

For the last four years, the American Meteorological Society has attempted to explain how climate change has influenced individual extreme weather events. However, that type of analysis, known as event attribution, is not yet available for the flooding in Louisiana.

Rob Moore, a senior policy analyst at the Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental nonprofit, who focuses on climate change’s effect on water resources, said that state and local governments would have to change their approaches to keeping citizens safe from flooding.

“If you look across all our natural disaster policies, they’re predicated on the wrong assumption that our flood risk in the future looks identical to our flood risk in the past,” he said.

He said that initiatives like the National Flood Insurance Program, which focuses on helping people rebuild in areas that have been flooded, were increasingly “untenable,” given sea level rise.

A report released earlier this month by the real estate sales company Zillow predicted that almost 1.9 million homes, worth a combined $882 billion, would be lost to the rising sea levels — and the flooding likely to follow — that climate scientists expect to see by the year 2100.

“When Zillow starts warning about sea level rise, it may be time to start worrying about sea level rise,” Mr. Moore said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/climate-change-louisiana.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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8/16/2016 3:01 pm  #2


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

I've been concerned about the flooding taking place over the last several years in some areas mentioned in the article.  All that sandbagging seems to be a big waste of energy anymore as the waters continue to rise with record-setting rainfalls.  My heart goes out to the people in Louisiana, many who never completely recovered from Katrina. 

 

8/16/2016 4:17 pm  #3


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

If we base flood insurance and disaster preparedness on the assumption that the past flood risk is equal to future flood risk we are going to come up woefully short on resources to help people.


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8/16/2016 4:46 pm  #4


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

The south certainly has had their monstrous problems with rain and flooding this year. Whether it is exactly tied to climate change per se is a little more difficult to tell. For sure the things that  climate scientists are warning about need to be heeded and nations need to take more action to curb gases that encourage the warming. 

I did not like, however, the linking of Zillow to climate change as they really have no real knowledge of the subject and it kind of denigrates the seriousness of the topic and the real researchers that need to be heard on the subject. 

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8/16/2016 6:40 pm  #5


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I took the Zillow comment as sarcasm ala Trump!

 

8/16/2016 7:03 pm  #6


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

I agree, flower, it was sarcastic.
Deniers have long dismissed the researchers as being biased. So, The author is saying "if you want to dismiss all of the scientists as dreamy eyed tree-huggers, fine, but, If the people whose only dog in the fight is money, are getting concerned,,, you might want to listen".
It was snarky, but effective.

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8/17/2016 7:16 am  #7


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

Reports of 40,000 homes with at least some water in them. 








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8/17/2016 7:50 am  #8


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

How to help Louisiana flood victims

(CNN)Southern Louisiana is being hit hard by deadly, historic flooding on top of the record floods the state suffered earlier this year.

Impact Your World has identified charities on the ground providing support.
The Salvation Army, which is dealing with flooding at its Baton Rouge facility, is helping thousands of residents who were forced to evacuate their homes.

The organization is assisting with disaster relief resources such as canteens (mobile feeding units), clean up and hygiene kits and sending support personnel to the affected areas. You can volunteer or donate money to the Salvation Army's Gulf Coast fund to help the cause.

The American Red Cross in Louisiana is providing meals and dozens of shelters for residents needing a safe place to sleep. You can contribute financially to the cause by going here and selecting "Louisiana Floods" from the drop-down menu. You can also text the word LAFLOODS to 90999 to make a $10 donation. If you would like to volunteer, you can fill out an application.


Cleanup efforts have already begun, and Operation Blessing International is deploying volunteers with a construction trailer to help residents in the recovery efforts. The organization is also providing hot meals. If you're interested in volunteering, email volunteer@OB.org.

Also accepting people willing to assist in the response and recovery efforts is Volunteer Louisiana. Register online or email nauck@crt.la.gov.

The United Way invites you to help flood relief efforts by volunteering or making a donation through the United Way of Southeast Louisiana. Citizens in need of services should dial 211, which is a hotline operating 24/7.
Second Harvest Food Bank of Greater New Orleans & Acadiana is distributing thousands of pounds of food, water and supplies to flood victims.

Convoy of Hope is providing food, water, equipment and relief supplies to southern Louisiana. You can support their work here. Please indicate you want the money donated to go towards the Louisiana August 2016 flood relief efforts.
Save the Children is deploying an emergency response team to Baton Rouge to establish specialized spaces within emergency shelters where children's unique needs can be met. To support their efforts, you can donate to the Gulf Coast Floods Children's Relief Fund.
Impact Your World will continue to monitor for ways you can help.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/us/iyw-louisiana-flooding-victims-help/

Beware of scams exploiting your impulse to help.
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8/17/2016 10:41 am  #9


Re: Flooding in the South Looks a Lot Like Climate Change

Thanks for posting.  If I lived alone in a big house I would bring as many families that would fit in my rooms!

 

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