Or maybe, so weak that they resort to these attacks to deflect attention from battle field    losses

Last edited by Goose (7/01/2016 6:40 pm)

Brady Bunch wrote:

Goose wrote:

Is there any evidence that this is related to Ramadan ?

Maybe it is coincidental, but there does seem to have been an uptick in ISIS inspired violence all around the world in the last month.  Or maybe ISIS has just become big enough, strong enough and influential enough to have militants pull off more attacks on an almost daily basis 

 

First of all, as I have previously explained, Ramadan is a month of sacrifice and showing compassion for those less fortunate. Those extremist nut jobs that attack innocents during the month have twisted the meaning of the month, taking a small excerpt that says if one dies during Ramadan they go straight to heaven. This is not unlike any other religion where splinter groups translate certain tenets to fit their twisted perspective.

Again, the brilliance or tortured reality of Osama bin Ladin and his al Qaida organization was to franchise independent outlets. ISIS has taken that blueprint a step further through social media to incite people all over the world who feel disenfranchised (for whatever reasons) to take violent action against their perceived oppressors. They provide information on weaponry, targets, etc. and encourage these 'independent contractors' to take that action, even to the point of blowing themselves up in the process. The perpetrators feel they get a free pass to paradise for taking that action while many innocent people die.

How do you combat that ?  There are hundreds of thousands of people in the world that are unstable, feel disenfranchised, outcast, discriminated, unhappy with their situation, and at the end of their sanity. They also have access to weaponry and the incentive, based on false religious premise, that enables them to take action. It is going to take world-wide, across political, religious, and cultural cooperation to figure out how to defeat this violence.

Last edited by Rongone (7/01/2016 7:41 pm)

Goose wrote:

So, by the theory being advanced by some, I guess we can anticipate an end of attacks in three days?

I am no expert on Islam, but much like Ron, my understanding of Ramadan is that it is not traditionally a time celebratig violence or Jihad. Vilent acts against nonmuslims is not a feature of the celebration of Ramadan.

So, I don't understand the supposed link.

I understand that these acts were motivated by hate and Islamic extremism (Except for Orlando, which I believe is more complex). I just don't see this as part of the celebration of Ramadan.

Where did I say that was my theory?

My initial post was an observation of what it seems to me is happening (daily attacks during Ramadan).  My next post I said the increase in violence may be a coincidence or it may be due to ISIS becoming stronger.

Nowhere did I say all the attacks are due to Ramadan, which would mean an end to Ramadan would be an end to all attacks.
 

One final comment from me (OK, maybe the second to last) on this. I really get tired of 'news reporters', talking heads on cable news, and other self proclaimed 'experts' that obsess over the terrorist yelling "Allahu Akbar" while murdering a bunch of innocent people and then blowing themselves to smithereens. What are we to infer from that? That because the nut job yelled "God is great" in Arabic that somehow indicts all Muslims? I don't get it. Especially when you consider that every day of the year, five times per day, the call to prayer emanating from the minarets of hundreds of thousands of mosques throughout the world, calling millions of Muslims to prayer begins with the saying "Allahu Akbar". If you consider this fact, and the number of times this statement is made all over the world without creating any terrorist activity, why do some people, when one crazed individual utters the phrase, seem to indict an entire religion for praising God?

Why are you so worked up about this?

Well, since you apparently haven't read the threads very carefully, Tarnation has suggested in this thread and another, that these attacks are a feature of Ramadan.  I happen to disagree. ISIS may urge attacks on the pretext of Ramadan (Next month they will use another pretext to try to get people to kill us). But I don't find it a traditional feature of Ramadan. Just my understanding of the Holiday. You need not agree.

Got it, or should we go back and forth for a dozen more posts?

Last edited by Goose (7/02/2016 8:02 am)