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6/21/2016 7:52 am  #1


Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for Westboro Baptist Church and others during Republican National Convention

http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/06/cleveland_grants_speaking_park.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland officials have granted permits to 20 individuals and groups who want to publicly demonstrate during July's Republican National Convention.Among those who received permits this week: the Westboro Baptist Church, the virulently anti-gay, Kansas-based group best-known for protesting military funerals.

The church was granted a half-hour slot on the city's planned "speakers platform" in Public Square starting at 5 p.m. on July 19. The city also granted the group an all-day permit for the next day to set up in Perk Plaza, the downtown park.The city granted the permits on June 13 and June 14 and posted them online. The GOP convention is scheduled for July 18-21.A message to a spokesman for Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson was not immediately returned. Under pressure from activists, Cleveland officials on May 25 set up a process for groups to file for permits to use the platform, and/or set up in either Willard Park or Perk Plaza and/or march along a designated "parade route" across the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge toward downtown.

An estimated 50,000 people and a significant number of protesters are expected to come to Cleveland during the GOP convention.The city's online posting did not contain any approved "parade" permits. Acting on behalf of three groups seeking to march in Cleveland during the GOP convention, the ACLU of Ohio this week sued Cleveland for not yet acting to grant or reject any parade permits.Here are the other groups and individuals granted permits this week:

Andrew Purchin, of Santa Cruz, Calif. (Event name: "The Curious End to the War Against Ourselves")Willard Park, 9:30 a.m. - 9 p.m., July 20, 21

BlackOnBlackCleveland.com Speakers platform: 11-11:30 a.m. on July 18; 1:15-1:45 p.m. on July 19

Bring Ohio BackSpeakers platform: 5:45-6:15 p.m. on July 18; 11:45 a.m.-12:15 p.m. on July 19; 2-2:30 p.m. on July 20; 5-5:30 p.m. on July 21

Code Pink Women for PeaceSpeakers platform: 11-11:30 p.m., July 20

Don Bryant (Event name: "Peace in the Park")Speakers platform: 11:45 a.m.-12:15 p.m., July 20

Gaye Lub of Saint Helena, CalifWillard Park: 9:30 a.m. - 9 p.m. on July 18-21

Greater Cleveland Immigration Network (Event name: "Community Unity")Speakers platform: 4:15-4:45 p.m., July 19

Imperial Women's CoalitionSpeakers platform: 9:30-10 a.m., 12:30-1 p.m., July 18

Justin Longwell, of Oberlin, OhioSpeakers platform: 5:45-6:15 p.m., July 21

League of Women Voters of Greater ClevelandWillard Park: 9:30 a.m.-9 p.m., July 18-21

Northeast Ohio American Friends Service CommitteeSpeakers platform, 5-5:30 p.m., July 20

People Fight Back Center/March Against RacismWillard Park: 9:30 a.m.-9 p.m., July 21

Pierre Nappier, of ClevelandSpeakers platform: 12:30-1 p.m., July 21

Revolution BooksPerk Plaza and Willard Park, 9:30 a.m.-9 p.m, July 18-21

Rose Hamid, of Charlotte, N.C. (Event name: "Salam, I Come in Peace")Speakers platform: 11:45 p.m.-12:15 p.m., July 18

Stand Together Against Trump Speakers platform: 5-5:30 p.m. on July 18; 5:45-6:15 p.m. on July 20Scott Roger Hurley, of ClevelandSpeakers platform: 10:15-10:45 a.m., July 18

Thomas Moran, of Fenton, Mich. (Event name: "Stop Trump")Perk Plaza: 9:30 a.m.-9 p.m., July 18, 19

Valarie Robinson, of Cleveland HeightsSpeakers platform: 12:30-1 p.m., July 19
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

6/21/2016 8:55 am  #2


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Is this good, bad, unexpected, usual practice,,,,,,?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

6/21/2016 9:02 am  #3


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Just a list of some of the groups who have applied for permits to publicly demonstrate.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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6/21/2016 11:50 am  #4


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

This STILL is America where people have the freedom of speech whether we like it or not. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

6/21/2016 12:05 pm  #5


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Nothing gets me more exciting that reading stories about the municipal permitting process in Cleveland 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

6/21/2016 12:31 pm  #6


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Yea, pretty exciting story,,,,,


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

6/21/2016 5:11 pm  #7


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

For a state or local government to be other than content-neutral in granting demonstration permits (which really are unconstitutional under the First Amendment) is to invite a lawsuit which they would lose and for which their taxpayers would pay dearly.

The Courts have held that political speech is the most protected of all speech.  

One my dislike the messengers and despise the message, but they have right to pass their gas.


Life is an Orthros.
 

6/22/2016 8:07 am  #8


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

tennyson wrote:

This STILL is America where people have the freedom of speech whether we like it or not. 

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

Maybe I missed who or what was making any statement about agreeing or not agreeing the groups or people applying for a permit. 
Thank god that we have an 1st amendment!  Political speech is so important especially today when groups are trying to silence people who they don't agree with!


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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6/22/2016 8:09 am  #9


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

TheLagerLad wrote:

Nothing gets me more exciting that reading stories about the municipal permitting process in Cleveland 

Well it seems you are excited enough to post here!


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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6/22/2016 8:18 am  #10


Re: Cleveland grants speaking, park use permits for the RNC

Common Sense wrote:

tennyson wrote:

This STILL is America where people have the freedom of speech whether we like it or not. 

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

Maybe I missed who or what was making any statement about agreeing or not agreeing the groups or people applying for a permit. 
Thank god that we have an 1st amendment!  Political speech is so important especially today when groups are trying to silence people who they don't agree with!

Whaaaattt??!

You've been on the internet, right? You've come across the main cable news channels, and the ancillary cable channels like One America, Newsmax, and The Blaze, right? You've read the comments section of a political Facebook post, right. Hell, the View has a whole segment that's pretty much dedicated to politics almost every day.

My Lord, we have an annoyingly high amount of political speech, free and loud, these days. It's almost impossible to avoid. 
 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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