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    6/04/2016 6:53 pm  #11

    Brady Bunch
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    Re: Sanders: 'The Dem Convention will be a contested convention'

    Goose wrote:

    How will the convention be "contested" if Clinton has the delegates needed to win the nomination?
    I don't get it.

    Since Hillary won't have the needed "pledged" delegates from primaries and caucuses to guarantee the nomination, he is going to try and sway the superdelegates to vote for him.  He will be contesting her nomination all the way up to the first vote (of course he won't win unless something dramatic happens).

    It really will be a futile effort, as I said before I am not sure what he is hoping to gain from doing this.

     

    6/04/2016 7:01 pm  #12

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    Re: Sanders: 'The Dem Convention will be a contested convention'

    Yea, a Sanders guy was on the telly explaining it. The plan is that they win a narrow victory in California, and then go into the convention with "momentum" that allows Sanders to talk the superdelegates into voting for him.

    So, apparently if the superdelegates support Clinton - who has the most popular votes - then the "system'" is "rigged".
    But, if Sanders - who has fewer popular votes - can get the support of superdelegates, it's cool; and endorsement of "the movement".
    Amazing.

    We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     

    6/04/2016 7:11 pm  #13

    Brady Bunch
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    Re: Sanders: 'The Dem Convention will be a contested convention'

    Goose wrote:

    Yea, a Sanders guy was on the telly explaining it. The plan is that they win a narrow victory in California, and then go into the convention with "momentum" that allows Sanders to talk the superdelegates into voting for him.

    So, apparently if the superdelegates support Clinton - who has the most popular votes - then the "system'" is "rigged".
    But, if Sanders - who has fewer popular votes - can get the support of superdelegates, it's cool; and endorsement of "the movement".
    Amazing.

    You are correct.  It is very hypocritical of Sanders to complain about how the system was and that is why he was losing, yet his plan now is to try and get the superdelegates to vote for him and "override" the fact that more people voted for Hillary and she has more pledged delegates.

    The below article from fivethirtyeight.com explains well that the system was never "rigged" against Bernie

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/

     

    Last edited by Brady Bunch (6/04/2016 7:11 pm)

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    6/05/2016 7:08 am  #14

    Just Fred
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    Re: Sanders: 'The Dem Convention will be a contested convention'

    If nothing else, I believe many of us have become more aware of how goofball the nominating process is.  Perhaps it will lead to changes in that process in the future.

     

     

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