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5/27/2016 5:17 pm  #21


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

OOOPS . . . There goes all that money Drumpf said he was going to give to some charity as a result of this debate.



Donald Trump refuses to debate ‘second-place finisher’ Bernie Sanders


Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump backpedaled from a prospective debate with Democratic hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Friday, announcing the decision with a stinging statement that dismissed Sanders as an also-ran.

The candidates’ camps had been engaged in discussions with prospective hosts earlier in the week, but in his statement Trump said it would be “inappropriate” to debate Sanders, who is on the verge of being formally eliminated by Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Trump attributed Sanders’ likely defeat to a “rigged” Democratic primary process.

“Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second-place finisher,” Trump said.

Shortly after Trump announced his decision, Sanders was asked about the statement during a question and answer session at a campaign event in Los Angeles.

“That’s the first I heard (of it). I heard that he was going to debate me and then that he was not going to debate me. He was going to debate me again. I hope he changes his mind — again,” Sanders said of Trump. “He’s a big, tough guy. Mr. Trump, what are you afraid of?”

The possibility of a debate between Trump and Sanders gained momentum after both candidates sat down with late-night television host Jimmy Kimmel earlier this week. On Wednesday, Trump appeared on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” and the host asked if he would be open to debating Sanders before California and six other states hold primaries on June 7.

“If I debated him we would have such high ratings,” Trump said. "If he paid a sum to charity I would love to do that.”

Sanders appeared on Kimmel’s show on Thursday and indicated he was open to debating Trump. On the campaign trail in North Dakota on Thursday, Trump told an interviewer he would consider the debate if it could “raise $10 or $15 million for charity.” Specifically, Trump suggested the money could go to “women’s health issues or something.”

By Friday, multiple networks came forward with proposals to host the debate and provide a charitable donation. Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, issued a statement on Friday afternoon indicating his team was “prepared to accept one of those offers.”

“Our campaign and the Trump campaign have received two offers by broadcast television networks to host the Sanders-Trump debate that we suggested. Both offers include a major contribution to charity,” Weaver said, later adding, “Given that the California primary is on June 7, it is imperative that this all comes together as soon as possible. We look forward to a substantive debate that will contrast the very different visions that Sen. Sanders and Mr. Trump have for the future of our country.”

Trump released his statement announcing his refusal to do the debate less than one hour after the Sanders campaign said it was ready to accept an offer.

“The networks want to make a killing on these events and are not proving to be too generous to charitable causes, in this case, women’s health issues. Therefore, as much as I want to debate Bernie Sanders - and it would be an easy payday - I will wait to debate the first-place finisher in the Democratic Party, probably Crooked Hillary Clinton, or whoever it may be,” Trump said.

 

5/27/2016 5:34 pm  #22


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

I thought it was smart to drop out of previously agreed to debates? Is it not?

 

5/27/2016 6:24 pm  #23


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

The Man wrote:

I thought it was smart to drop out of previously agreed to debates? Is it not?

 
The debate was proposed by Jimmy Kimmel to Trump on his show on May 25th. Trump said the debate could raise up to $10 million which he would donate to an unspecified charity. Upon hearing this proposal, Sanders agreed to the debate on May 26th. Trump confirmed his interest in the debate May 26th and the morning of May 27th. Then he abruptly refused the participate later on May 27 citing the lame excuse of no precedent for debating someone in second place.

#1 I don't consider this dropping out of a previously agreed to debate due to the minimal time frame and the fact that Trump was one of the people to initially propose the debate and then brag about the money he could raise for charity, basically in a 36 hour period of time.

#2 It is obvious that one or several of Trump's advisors jumped in and told him to nix the debate. What they were afraid of was that Trump would end up looking like an idiot in a debate of real issues with a "second-place finisher". That would certainly put him in a poor position in presidential issue debates with a first-place finisher.

Good move by Trump's advisors.

 

5/27/2016 6:38 pm  #24


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

I was pretty well convinced he would be a "no-show". 

He would have wound up being completely outclassed and out debated by the person who will wind up in 2nd place to Hillary. I don't know IF Trump can get up to speed on all the issues and ACTUAL solutions vs his stumblings so far. That time will tell. Perhaps his insults and his trust me I'm good will work and get him to the POTUS prize. God help us IF that happens. He is SOO unprepared  and would be one of the least classy Presidents of all time. 

 

Last edited by tennyson (5/27/2016 6:39 pm)


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5/27/2016 6:46 pm  #25


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

Yeah, I was looking forward Dumpster being dumped by Bernie.

 

5/27/2016 8:16 pm  #26


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

I'm not surprised.  Bernie would crush him. 

 

5/27/2016 9:10 pm  #27


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

Rongone wrote:

The Man wrote:

I thought it was smart to drop out of previously agreed to debates? Is it not?

 
The debate was proposed by Jimmy Kimmel to Trump on his show on May 25th. Trump said the debate could raise up to $10 million which he would donate to an unspecified charity. Upon hearing this proposal, Sanders agreed to the debate on May 26th. Trump confirmed his interest in the debate May 26th and the morning of May 27th. Then he abruptly refused the participate later on May 27 citing the lame excuse of no precedent for debating someone in second place.

#1 I don't consider this dropping out of a previously agreed to debate due to the minimal time frame and the fact that Trump was one of the people to initially propose the debate and then brag about the money he could raise for charity, basically in a 36 hour period of time.

#2 It is obvious that one or several of Trump's advisors jumped in and told him to nix the debate. What they were afraid of was that Trump would end up looking like an idiot in a debate of real issues with a "second-place finisher". That would certainly put him in a poor position in presidential issue debates with a first-place finisher.

Good move by Trump's advisors.

DIttos that, plus Trump's statement of decline was both a slam on Hillary and a grandslam on the Democrat establishment.  He basically told Sanders supporters that the process is rigged against them. 

I swear, this whole election season is one great promo for Through the Looking Glass.
 


Life is an Orthros.
 

5/28/2016 5:31 am  #28


Re: Bernie Sanders Agrees to Debate Donald Trump

The Man wrote:

I thought it was smart to drop out of previously agreed to debates? Is it not?

Trump pulled out?
"Why? What is the crooked liar afraid of?"

Last edited by Goose (5/30/2016 7:28 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

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