Is he going to FORCE them to drill ? 

Right now most oil companies have suspended drilling and exploration and new wells are being capped till prices rise. 

I can never make sense out of many of his economic policies and suggestions. He MAY be good at real estate and knowing how to use bankruptcy laws but a lot of what he says economically is either weird, uninformed, or dangerous.

Last edited by tennyson (5/27/2016 12:02 pm)

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense wrote:

So the question should be does a very successful  billion dollar businessman  understand the economics of the energy market?   Yes
Does he understand how our government works? Yes


Most of what Obama did was by executive order. The first week of the Trump presidency will see 90% of what Obama did reversed. Trump will use his pen and phone just like Obama.
There won't be any need for the courts to rule because the order will be revoked.

Can Executive Orders be Overridden or Withdrawn?
"The president can amend or retract an executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding an existing one. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

 
This inference that Obama overstepped his authority by excessive use of executive orders is nonsense.

Common, do you have any idea how Obama compares to other presidents in his use of executive orders?

If it's non-sense why has he been sued so many times.

It does not matter of the number of the executive orders.... It's what it does and is that allowed under our constitution. Executive orders are fine but you can not make new law. Only Congress can do that.

• In the first 6.5 years of Obama’s presidency (January 2009 to June 2015), the government lost unanimously at the Supreme Court 23 times, an average of 3.62 cases per year.
• In all 8 years of George W. Bush’s presidency, the government lost unanimously 15 times (1.875 cases per year).
• In all 8 years of Bill Clinton’s presidency, the government lost 23 times (2.875 cases per year).
• In other words, Obama has lost unanimously twice as often as Bush and 1.5 times as often as Clinton. Obama also passed Bush’s 8-year total in less than 5 years.
• The Justice Department’s unanimous loss rate from 2012 to 2014 was especially bad – 13 cases in 30 months – almost three times Bush’s overall rate and almost twice Clinton’s (and that doesn’t count amicus litigating positions with unanimous losses).

Common Sense wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense wrote:

So the question should be does a very successful  billion dollar businessman  understand the economics of the energy market?   Yes
Does he understand how our government works? Yes


Most of what Obama did was by executive order. The first week of the Trump presidency will see 90% of what Obama did reversed. Trump will use his pen and phone just like Obama.
There won't be any need for the courts to rule because the order will be revoked.

Can Executive Orders be Overridden or Withdrawn?
"The president can amend or retract an executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding an existing one. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

 
This inference that Obama overstepped his authority by excessive use of executive orders is nonsense.

Common, do you have any idea how Obama compares to other presidents in his use of executive orders?

If it's non-sense why has he been sued so many times.

It does not matter of the number of the executive orders.... It's what it does and is that allowed under our constitution. Executive orders are fine but you can not make new law. Only Congress can do that.

• In the first 6.5 years of Obama’s presidency (January 2009 to June 2015), the government lost unanimously at the Supreme Court 23 times, an average of 3.62 cases per year.
• In all 8 years of George W. Bush’s presidency, the government lost unanimously 15 times (1.875 cases per year).
• In all 8 years of Bill Clinton’s presidency, the government lost 23 times (2.875 cases per year).
• In other words, Obama has lost unanimously twice as often as Bush and 1.5 times as often as Clinton. Obama also passed Bush’s 8-year total in less than 5 years.
• The Justice Department’s unanimous loss rate from 2012 to 2014 was especially bad – 13 cases in 30 months – almost three times Bush’s overall rate and almost twice Clinton’s (and that doesn’t count amicus litigating positions with unanimous losses).

 
Wow . . . Careful now with those stats. The 'government losing cases before the Supreme Court' does not necessarily refer to executive orders issued by the president. There are many government departments that can initiate legal proceedings or defend cases brought against a specific group that falls under their auspices. Records show some 60 cases per session are brought before the court in this manner. Also court rulings handed down during one administration may have actually been initiated by a previous administration. Like in the case of the 13 cases you refer to above, 8 of those 13 were initiated by the Bush administration. Statistics are funny things that can be twisted to fit a point of view. Just ask Bob Goodlatte the GOP operative that started spinning these stories and got caught in his lies and misconceptions.

Just Fred wrote:

.... in the case of the 13 cases you refer to above, 8 of those 13 were initiated by the Bush administration.

Ooops.
 

Ron, don't confuse us with the facts.
It's un-Trumplike 

Last edited by Goose (5/28/2016 8:26 am)