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I'm glad old Ben never operated on anybody in my family!
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Can babies' brains be wired for stupidity before birth? And then they become Republicans later in life?
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I don't think any surgeon should be in the White House. They tend to suffer from a God complex, which may be a helpful trait in their field, but is not one when it comes to politics. (And the God complex thing isn't my opinion, as a lot of surgeons are aware that it's a trait they have. It takes a s*#tload of self-confidence to operate on a brain or heart, so it is useful in their line of work.)
Oh, and Ben Carson is a jackass. Maybe we should test his theory and send him to prison and see if he comes out gay. For a smart guy, he sure is a moron.
Tell me, what difference does it make from a civil rights point of view, whether someone is born gay or chooses to be? Either way they should have the same protections under the law.
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BYOB is right.
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Seriously?
You would exclude certain people based solely upon their occupations, and a sweeping generalization of the personality of people in that field?
As for Carson, I have a hard time figuring out why a guy who wants to be President would focus on issues that the President really doesn't have any duties to affect. My own suspicion is that it is code to appeal to peoples' bigotry.
"It's OK to dislike those people. After all, they chose to be that way".
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It would give me pause, but not solely based on that one thing. I would take the individual as a whole into account. But don't tell me that a neurosurgeon from Johns Hopkins who's spouting weird random gay "facts" doesn't raise any red flags to you? Maybe my expectations are too high. I expect people who made it that far in life to have learned more along the way. The God complex and surgeons thing is not my sweeping generalization, it's widely known. Google 'surgeons' and 'God complex'. I'm not slamming surgeons. Like I said, it can be a beneficial trait in that line of work, but it doesn't mean that it's a beneficial trait in other lines of work.
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After that, Google "lawyers" and "crooks". Or "Politicians" and "liar".
Hey, you think that the God complex isn't already very well represented in Washington?
We get rid of ego and the place would be a ghost town.
Carson's remarks are very concerning in that they come from the lips of any educated man. It's just looney.
I would go along with "it would give me pause", which is much better than "no surgeon should be in the White House". My only concern with a surgeon is that their training is very narrow, and very rigorous, leaving little time for a more broad education. But, we are a collection of individuals, not job titles, so I would give them an opportunity to show me that they have a more expansive interest. If they do that I'm fine. (Obviously Carson fails in that regard).
Supreme self confidence isn't necessarily a vice.
What one man calls a "God complex", another might praise as "decisiveness".
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That's what I'm sayin'! We don't need more of that in DC, we need solutions not ego. I think the psychology field has differentiated between God complex and decisiveness. I don't always see it as a vice either. It's just not a trait that I see as neccessary and effective in Government. I fully believe that you can be a decisive and intelligent person without thinking you're above everyone else. But that's just me.
The googling of God complex and surgeons was not meant to be flippant. It is pretty easy to search the results and differentiate between opinion write-ups and medical write-ups.
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What occupations do you figure attract/shape the type of personaility that you want to see in government?
BTW, I have had the pleasure to know a few surgeons as friends. I am not comfortable with the "God Complex" label, and do not believe that it was a fitting description of these individuals. It is a generalization.
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It's a moot point. We've been shown consistently for the past 6 or so years that it doesn't matter who we elect to President, they probably won't be allowed to govern anyway.
I have also known people in the field, and they are very aware of the connection and do not dispute it. I did not say it was a bad thing in their line of work. I also did not say every single surgeon suffers from it either. As I do not know every single surgeon in the world personally, I guess that makes me exempt from an opinion? I did not use the generalization as a tool for bashing. I used it as a look at certain traits. Traits are based on a look at the whole, no?
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