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Most of this is 'business as usual' in America today, but has anyone else noticed the number of shoot-em-up incidents we've had lately?
Family executions on Ohio, prom shootings in Wisconsin, and motel shoot-outs in Kansas, police shooting a motorist in Florida. Not enough good guys with guns, I guess. Who can say?
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The prom shooting both people who were shot are alive and out of the hospital today. The bad guy was shot by the police and is dead!"St. Lucie County Sheriff Ken Mascara said in a statement that 21-year-old Demarcus Semer was killed following a traffic stop made shortly before midnight Saturday.Mascara says the motorist tried to flee and ran over the legs of one of two officers who stopped his car. The second officer was partially inside the car and fired his gun, killing him, according to authorities."
Sounds like the police shot a bad guy?
The motel shooting 3 agents were injuries and the bad guy is dead possibly from his room being set on fire. Agents are going to be OK but the bad guy... He is Dead!
Ohio:
Eight family members found dead in a rural southern Ohio community were shot in the head "execution style," most while they slept, authorities said Friday.
The slayings of eight family members in rural southern Ohio "was a pre-planned execution" and the investigation will be lengthy, the state's attorney general told reporters Sunday.The Friday killings at four different homes near Piketon was "a sophisticated operation," Attorney General Mike DeWine said at a news conference in the small community that has been on edge since the seven adults and one teenage boy were found shot in the head.Authorities said it was clear that the Rhoden family was targeted, and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader said he's told relatives to be armed.Reader said he did not believe there was a safety issue for other residents. But "If you are fearful, arm yourself," he said. Authorities have been scrambling to determine who targeted the clan and why. Investigators have interviewed between 50 and 60 people in hopes of finding leads, and a team 38 people is combing wooded areas around the shooting scenes to ensure no evidence was missed, Reader said.Authorities found marijuana-growing operations at three of the four locations of the shootings, but neither DeWine nor Reader elaborated on what, if any, role they had in the deaths.
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And, today a couple of church goers in Montgomery County, Pa. got into a fuss and one of them shot and killed the other guy. Did the 'good guy' kill the 'bad guy' or did the 'bad guy' kill the 'good guy'?
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Fred in the real world good people will get killed and that is just a fact. It's not fair.
But to use that as a standard to say no one can own a gun is just wrong. There
are evil people who for what ever reason decide to do very bad things. You can not stop
them by passing more gun laws or try to take gun away from lawful citizens.
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Fred in the real world good people will get killed and that is just a fact.
That's a bit of a weak argument, Common. If that were the case, we could say people get killed in auto accidents, so why have seat belts, air bags, child safety seats, antilock braking systems, and shatter-proof glass?
BTW, when did I say people should not be able to own a gun?
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Just Fred wrote:
Fred in the real world good people will get killed and that is just a fact.
That's a bit of a weak argument, Common. If that were the case, we could say people get killed in auto accidents, so why have seat belts, air bags, child safety seats, antilock braking systems, and shatter-proof glass?
BTW, when did I say people should not be able to own a gun?
The ability to own a gun is not EVER going away. What, however, needs to come about are some things that have been proposed that will make it safer for both those that do own guns as well as those that do not. Too many common sense things have been rejected that could help in that regards.
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And now we have this............
A 14-year-old boy armed with a replica gun was shot and wounded by a Baltimore police officer Wednesday afternoon.
The teen, later identified by the Baltimore Sun as Dedric Colvin, ran when approached by two undercover police officers driving an unmarked police car shortly after 4 p.m., the authorities said.
He is expected to survive after being hit in the leg and the shoulder.
Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis, who said that the boy was 13, said that he had been seen with what appeared to be a semi-automatic pistol in his hand. Colvin's mother later said it was a BB gun.
“It is a dead-on ringer, semi-automatic pistol that resembles a Beretta handgun,” Davis said. "Those police officers had no way of knowing that it was not, in fact, an actual firearm. It looks like a firearm."
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I still don't understand why our society and governments (both state and federal) are more than willing to control, restrict, and impede the people's ability to own and operate a means to transport themselves from place to place in their daily lives, while still opposing such controls, restrictions, and impediments on an implement specifically developed and designed for the sole purpose of efficiently killing other living things.
Blows my mind.
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Just Fred wrote:
And now we have this............
A 14-year-old boy armed with a replica gun was shot and wounded by a Baltimore police officer Wednesday afternoon.
The teen, later identified by the Baltimore Sun as Dedric Colvin, ran when approached by two undercover police officers driving an unmarked police car shortly after 4 p.m., the authorities said.
He is expected to survive after being hit in the leg and the shoulder.
Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis, who said that the boy was 13, said that he had been seen with what appeared to be a semi-automatic pistol in his hand. Colvin's mother later said it was a BB gun.
“It is a dead-on ringer, semi-automatic pistol that resembles a Beretta handgun,” Davis said. "Those police officers had no way of knowing that it was not, in fact, an actual firearm. It looks like a firearm."
Twenty eight years ago this month the York City Police had a similar situation with a tragic outcome.
An older teen named Israel Ramos faked a hostage situation with his girlfriend, using realistic look-a-likes. He was eventually killed by a police sniper, who was devastated upon learning--after the fact--that the "guns" were toys.
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As to the topic at hand, I have felt that for a long time now that gun violence has been more of a constant in or society than when I was younger. I went through the turbulent 60s with the race riots, Black Panthers, and remember well the National Guard in York.In ALL OF THAT I do not remember anywhere near the number of gun violence (shootings, killings) that we see reported every day in one sort or another.
I know they say gun violence is on a downwards trend, but I for one cannot be too convinced of that fact.