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NEW YORK — As one of the largest rallies of his presidential campaign drew to a close, Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) offered his voters some unusual and unwanted advice.
They might lose.
“This is a tough race for us,” Sanders told thousands of supporters in Manhattan last week. “We have a system here in New York where independents can’t get involved in the Democratic primary, where young people who have not previously registered and want to register just can’t do it.
”Boos echoed through Washington Square Park, where plenty of voters had learned this the hard way. They had missed New York’s stringent deadline — in October — to switch party registration in order to cast a ballot in Tuesday’s Democratic primary.
Now, the Sanders campaign is pre-spinning a possible loss here by criticizing that rule.
Last edited by Just Fred (4/17/2016 6:21 pm)
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People of ALL ages need to pay more attention to the world around them. There's no excuse for not being aware of voting regulations in the area in which one votes, particularly in these extremely goofy elections coming up. Instead of criticizing the rules how about a civic lesson in responsibility.
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Two of Trumps children who are old enough to vote also did not register in time and thus they also fall into that same situation.
Where there are important stringent deadlines such as this is is imperative that the candidates organizational machine understand this and get the message out in time.
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Hey, here's an idea for a functioning democratic society : Let everyone who is of voting age participate in a primary or general election without any regard to party affiliation and standardize the procedure across the USA.
Last edited by Just Fred (4/18/2016 9:02 am)
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Just Fred wrote:
Hey, here's an idea for a functioning democratic society : Let everyone who is of voting age participate in a primary or general election without any regard to party affiliation and standardize to procedure across the USA.
At the Federal level Presidential vote level you can certainly argue for that since our Founding Fathers actually laid out some specifics about how the process SHOULD work, but at the primary level you are talking about two "business operations" (ie the Republican and Democratic Party) and how they choose to elect their nominee in the Primaries is wide open to the whims of the respective parties. Doubt that EITHER party would want to have outside rules laid on them and how their party functions (or NOT some might say).
The Primary rules for each party are pretty much laid out well ahead of time for each perspective contestant to figure out the best way to win the nomination within the confines of the rules. I admit that EACH party has a lot of weird rules and regs, but that is their right and if people don't like them they are free to either change party affiliations or look for a third party candidate.
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Has anyone ever taken legal action for being refused the right to vote in a primary?
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All I'm saying is that rather than have each state set up rules and regs, simplify and standardize the whole thing. we;ve got 'winner take all' primaries and 'proportion primaries', states and parties that set up registration deadlines 6 or more months in advance and states that allow you register the day of the primary. Then we have caucuses, conventions, delegates and super delegates, open primaries, closed primaries, delegates that reflect the will of their districts and those that don't, etc.
Why not just let the majority of voters who vote for a candidate decide who the candidate will be? Actually, (and I can't believe I'm saying this, but) Donald Trump has a point here.
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All of that COULD happen IF the respective political tribes wanted it. Remember that this a basically the same as a business at the primary level. They will continue to construct things that they think is to their benefit.
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They will continue to construct things that they think is to their benefit.
Right. The hell with us unwashed masses who think we are living in some kind of democracy....... rule by and for the people. Team politics is running us down the road to some new kind of plutocratic oligarchy.
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In closed-primary states like Pennsylvania the primaries exist solely for the benefit of the political parties.
SO MAKE THE PARTIES PAY FOR THEM, ALREADY!
Stop using public tax dollars to subsidize private organizations.
This is corporate welfare at its worst.