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3/15/2016 8:10 am  #11


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Here are some more Making America Great Again for Mr Trump

Trump Airlines

In October 1988, Donald Trump threw his wallet into the airline business by purchasing Eastern Air Shuttle, a service that for 27 years had run hourly flights between Boston, New York City and Washington, D.C. For roughly $365 million, Trump got a fleet of 17 Boeing 727s, landing facilities in each of the three cities and the right to paint his name on an airplane. Trump pushed to give the airline the Trump touch, making the previously no-muss, no-fuss shuttle service into a luxury experience. To this end, he added maple-wood veneer to the floors, chrome seat-belt latches and gold-colored bathroom fixtures. But his gamble was a bust. A lack of increased interest from customers (who favored the airline for its convenience not its fancy new look) combined with high pre–Gulf War fuel prices meant the shuttle never turned a profit. The high debt forced Trump to default on his loans, and ownership of the company was turned over to creditors. The Trump Shuttle ceased to exist in 1992 when it was merged into a new corporation, Shuttle Inc. 

Last edited by tennyson (3/15/2016 8:11 am)


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/15/2016 8:12 am  #12


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Has Hillary or Berine ever created one job?
Trump has created thousands. Right?


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

3/15/2016 8:14 am  #13


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

If you are trying to prove that Trump has had failures you are 100% correct! Successful people fail!
That is part of life! Trump has failed in business ventures.
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

3/15/2016 8:18 am  #14


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Successful people fail!



 

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 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

3/15/2016 8:26 am  #15


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Common Sense wrote:

If you are trying to prove that Trump has had failures you are 100% correct! Successful people fail!
That is part of life! Trump has failed in business ventures.
 

I understand that. 

MOST business ventures fail within the first year. 

What I am attempting to illustrate is that in particular Mr Trumps ventures generally have nothing to do at all with the common mans plight and his pledge to "Make America Great Again". Mr Trump is a skillful money maker (sometimes) whose ventures are NOT aligned with what America really needs (and in some cases such as what I listed as his China connections are in DIRECT CONTRAST to the pitch he is making about businesses should be producing their products here vs taking them overseas) 

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3/15/2016 8:39 am  #16


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

To try to reinforce my point, contrast this with another Billionaire Warren Buffet and his Berkshire Hathaway whose holding ARE in the mainstream of American business and is certainly more a model of "Making America Great Again" that Mr Trump whose only goal appears to line his OWN pockets. And yes, Mr Buffett has has failures as well, but there is a "huge" difference in the approach of both men in their investment choices and what it means to the future of America. 

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3/15/2016 8:48 am  #17


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Bottomline for me is that people with business experience don't necessarily qualify them as potential presidents of a country.  Running and leading a country is not like running a business where the goal is to turn the biggest profit possible.  America is not a corporation, although the line between the two is getting blurry, I'll give you that.  

 

3/15/2016 8:56 am  #18


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

Just Fred wrote:

Bottomline for me is that people with business experience don't necessarily qualify them as potential presidents of a country.  Running and leading a country is not like running a business where the goal is to turn the biggest profit possible.  America is not a corporation, although the line between the two is getting blurry, I'll give you that.  

And at the same time we have to admit that a successful America requires successful companies that employ individuals allowing them to pursue their dreams and ambitions


 


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3/15/2016 10:51 am  #19


Re: Is Mr Trumps rhetoric of Making America Great Again match his record

I will agree with you on that Fred.  Being a successful businessman does not make someone a great political leader.  You need look no further than the governor of our state, Tom Wolf.

 

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