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2/07/2016 6:29 am  #1


Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response



Senator Bernie Sanders, center, at a hearing in July 2014, often points with pride to the two years he spent as chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee. Credit Gabriella Demczuk for The New York Times



There were reports of secret waiting lists to hide long delays in care. Whistle-blowers said as many as 40 veterans had died waiting for appointments. And Congress was demanding answers.

Despite mounting evidence of trouble at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Senator Bernie Sanders, then the chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, initially regarded the complaints as overblown, and as a play by conservatives to weaken one of the country’s largest social welfare institutions.

“There is, right now, as we speak, a concerted effort to undermine the V.A.,” Mr. Sanders said in May 2014, two weeks after the story was picked up by national news organizations. “You have folks out there now — Koch brothers and others — who want to radically change the nature of society, and either make major cuts in all of these institutions, or maybe do away with them entirely.”

But the scandal deepened: The secretary of veterans affairs resigned. Reports showed major problems at dozens of V.A. hospitals. And an Obama administration review revealed “significant and chronic systemic leadership failures” in the hospital system.

Mr. Sanders eventually changed course, becoming critical of the agency and ultimately joining with Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican, and other colleagues to draft a bipartisan bill to try to fix the veterans health care waiting list.

Mr. Sanders’s chairmanship of the committee, his most notable leadership post in the Senate, has become a go-to credential in his upstart quest to win the Democratic nomination for president. He routinely boasts of praise from the largest veterans organizations, who lauded his fight to expand benefits. And he frequently speaks of how he helped devise the wait time fix and was able to “crack the gridlock” of Washington, as one of his campaign mailers put it.

But a review of his record in the job also shows that in a moment of crisis, his deep-seated faith in the fundamental goodness of government blinded him, at least at first, to a dangerous breakdown in the one corner of it he was supposed to police. Despite inspector general reports dating back a decade that documented a growing problem with wait times, Mr. Sanders, who had served on the committee for six years before he became its head, was quick to defend the agency and slow to aggressively question V.A. officials and demand accountability.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/us/politics/faith-in-agency-clouded-bernie-sanderss-va-response.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/07/2016 8:22 am  #2


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

The fact that since we've been involved in Middle East wars for the last 13 (and counting) years it is time to address the issue of an increasing number of vets returning home with physical and/or mental problems. Perhaps it is time we invest more time and effort on proper funding and managing the system to handle the increased load.  Find where the breakdowns are and fix it.

 

2/07/2016 9:02 am  #3


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

It does seem that Sander was slow at the start of this to respond. My question how many of the facts were out at the time. Today we know the nightmare of the waiting times at the VA. That it is not an isolated incident and management has major problems on a massive scale. Sanders did respond to the issue and seemed to work hard to make corrections.

"Mr. Sanders eventually changed course, becoming critical of the agency and ultimately joining with Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican, and other colleagues to draft a bipartisan bill to try to fix the veterans health care waiting list."

The sign of a leader. See a mistake and correct it as soon as you can.

The sad thing is there are still major problem with the VA health system.
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/07/2016 9:09 am  #4


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

The main problem with the VA health system is that we keep feeding the system with patients with never ending nonsensical wars. Never changing an antiquated WW II approach only exacerbates the problem.

 

2/07/2016 9:15 am  #5


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

Rongone wrote:

The main problem with the VA health system is that we keep feeding the system with patients with never ending nonsensical wars. Never changing an antiquated WW II approach only exacerbates the problem.

Yea if there were no patients there would be no problem.  Case solved!
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/07/2016 9:18 am  #6


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

I think Ron's making the argument that the system is overloaded.
No need for the straw man fallacy.


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2/07/2016 10:01 am  #7


Re: Faith in Agency Clouded Bernie Sanders’s V.A. Response

Common Sense wrote:

Rongone wrote:

The main problem with the VA health system is that we keep feeding the system with patients with never ending nonsensical wars. Never changing an antiquated WW II approach only exacerbates the problem.

Yea if there were no patients there would be no problem.  Case solved!
 

I agree with Rongone here. We need to more fully understand what we are getting into before engaging. Vietnam was the start of recent "wars" that were ill-conceived. Latest was the Middle East mess that we exacerbated in a region that has shown us for centuries that it cannot even find peace with itself. 


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