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"A Menace"
National Review, conservative thinkers stand against Trump
Los Angeles (CNN)National Review, the conservative magazine founded by William F. Buckley, will publish a special issue on Friday opposing Donald Trump's bid for the presidency, the publication revealed Thursday night.
The cover was tweeted by the magazine shortly before 10 p.m. ET.
The issue features a blistering editorial that labels Trump a threat to conservatism, as well as essays by 22 prominent conservative thinkers from various ideological factions, in opposition to Trump's candidacy.
"Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot on behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as The Donald himself," the editorial states.
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National Review editor Rich Lowry spent weeks reaching out to fellow conservatives, ranging from The Weekly Standard's William Kristol to RedState's Erick Erickson, to commission essays for the issue.
His effort reflects a frustration among conservative thought leaders over the GOP establishment's unwillingness to take a bold stand against Trump. While Republicans like House Speaker Paul Ryan and South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley have signaled opposition to some of Trump's policy proposals, there has not been an aggressive effort by the GOP establishment to counter his rise.
It is also notable that the anti-Trump manifesto is coming from Buckley's magazine -- which was first published in the 1950s and has long been a leading voice on the American right, influencing countless conservatives, including former President Ronald Reagan -- given that Trump cited the conservative thinker during the most recent Republican debate on January 14.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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National Review apparently did a full issue to oppose Trump.
A major battle raging inside the party that has become very public. The RNC has cut debate ties with National Review.
Will this have any effect on Trump in the primary's? I think not.
NR is railing against a person that will be the Republican nominee for president.
NR has self-inflected major damage to themselves. A ill timed hit piece? Maybe?
In the short term do the voters in the republican primary's in Iowa and New Hampshire care what they have written? Nope......
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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I think it is a bit much to write this off so casually.
Think of this. 68% of republicans in NH do NOT support Trump *
This magazine issue speaks to the intense tensions within the GOP.
There is a struggle about whether the defining character of the Republican party will be conservatism or populism.
Thought v emotion.
Big tent V small.
A very interesting time for the party.
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Thread Starter- Just Fred
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The current version of the R-Tribe is considerably different from the William F. Buckley version, that's for sure. Anyway, D. Trump responded in typical Trump fashion by saying, "They're readership is down. Nobody reads it anymore."
In the end, conservatives may have to surrender to Republicanism. As an aside, my 91 year old Republican dad still thinks of Dwight Eisenhower when he thinks of what it means to be a Republican. I just let it go.
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How can the guy who wrote a $25,000 check for Terry McAuliffe's campaign in 2009 call himself a conservative?
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Thread Starter- Common Sense
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I would say the thing is happening in the Democratic party right now.
People dismissed Sanders as a crazy old socialists. Crazy wild white hair with no chance to win a primary much less the nomination. His base of young people think different!
Well guess what happened on the way to the nomination? The Clinton camp is in Defcon 5... Stop Sanders at all costs. She is on CNN this weekend and another debate has been quickly scheduled. Neither of theses would have happened if she was ahead in Iowa or New Hampshire. The lying attacks from Clinton supporters and camp have been stunning. Remember when Clinton was way leading by double digit? When she patted Sanders on the head?
What an election year this will be!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Funny now people are worried is Trump is a conservative? I would think they would be happy that his is not?
Right? he not a conservative. No worry then.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Just curious, Common. Who's your champion among the many nominee contenders? I've already declared that I'm feelin' the Bern. How about you?
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Common Sense wrote:
Funny now people are worried is Trump is a conservative? I would think they would be happy that his is not?
Right? he not a conservative. No worry then.
You misunderstand.
I'm not worried about Trump's conservative credentials, or the lack of them, at all.
I am commenting on, and tryng to understand, current dynamics within the Republican party on a site that exists for precisely such discussions.
Just as you find the Sanders' phenomenon fascinating, I find the struggle within the GOP inherently interesting.
The fact remains, Trump is not a conservative - not a longterm one at any rate - and yet he leads in polls of a party that self-describes as conservative. (I'm not sure why pointing this out seems to worry you.)
The same base that was lukewarm about Romney, worrying that he was not conservative enough, enthusiastically embraces Trump. There is an ideological inconsistency here.
There is something going on here, and I wish to understand it.
This is a discussion worthy development.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Thread Starter- TheLagerLad
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The NR did a good job trotting out a wide swath of conservatives. Erickson, the evangelical. Loesch, the gun nut, Mukasey, the National Security guy, Kristol, the Neocon and so on.
The conservative elite has not formed a conservative coalition against Trump. This, I think, will wear his support down enough to keep him from the nomination.
I'm surprised it took them this long.
I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump