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Brady Bunch wrote:
And why do you think she won't be charged?
Imagine you are the guy or gal at Justice in charge of deciding whether to bring charges against the presumptive Democratic nominee for President of the United States. If you bring charges, you are now inserting yourself directly into the race. You're going to have every political operative rummaging through your garbage, your past, your families' past.
And if you don't get a conviction, you're a national pariah for at least half the country.
Hillary may eventually be charged with something, but it won't be while she's running for President.
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I agree with Lager's answer to my question, if charges aren't filed it will have more to do with the fact of who she is and that she is running for President.
How sad is it that justice may not be served because of fear of doing the right thing?
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Brady Bunch wrote:
I agree with Lager's answer to my question, if charges aren't filed it will have more to do with the fact of who she is and that she is running for President.
How sad is it that justice may not be served because of fear of doing the right thing?
I don't think it's a matter of "doing the right thing". It's a matter of having to be the prosecution team fighting not just the Clinton legal defense team, but every single Clinton supporter, every single Democratic activist. Every media member that digs into the case.
It almost makes it impossible to prosecute a case like this, because of the political environment around it.
And keep in mind that no case like this is open and shut. This isn't the type of case where you find someone with a blood soaked knife in their hand. This is all around the interpretation of legal statutes and good defense attorneys will always find a way to argue that what we think we are reading isn't what we're really reading.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
Brady Bunch wrote:
I agree with Lager's answer to my question, if charges aren't filed it will have more to do with the fact of who she is and that she is running for President.
How sad is it that justice may not be served because of fear of doing the right thing?I don't think it's a matter of "doing the right thing". It's a matter of having to be the prosecution team fighting not just the Clinton legal defense team, but every single Clinton supporter, every single Democratic activist. Every media member that digs into the case.
It almost makes it impossible to prosecute a case like this, because of the political environment around it.
And keep in mind that no case like this is open and shut. This isn't the type of case where you find someone with a blood soaked knife in their hand. This is all around the interpretation of legal statutes and good defense attorneys will always find a way to argue that what we think we are reading isn't what we're really reading.
Just a side note, the term "justice" is not an absolute if you look at its definition(s) and history. Justice is an interesting concept which many of us have faced perhaps from time to time. NOT every prosecution is necessarily justice and not every clemency is necessarily justice either. Just something to ponder and perhaps reflect upon based upon you own experiences with what is or was considered "justice" in your life or someone you knew.
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I understand and agree with everything you said.
I guess my issue would be if they don't prosecute because of who she is and what she is running for, and they would prosecute some lower level functionary if they did the same thing.
I understand why they wouldn't, but it doesn't make it right.
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BTW, does ANYONE know the particulars of what these reported emails are about.
The typical operatives appear to be all over this apparently without knowing themselves. Not exactly surprising. Neither the press or politicians waste an opportunity.
It will be interesting to see just what is involved in these emails and were they received or sent.
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tennyson wrote:
BTW, does ANYONE know the particulars of what these reported emails are about.
The typical operatives appear to be all over this apparently without knowing themselves. Not exactly surprising. Neither the press or politicians waste an opportunity.
It will be interesting to see just what is involved in these emails and were they received or sent.
At the end of the day, it comes down to this, IMHO: government officials should not be handling government material outside of government Information Technology oversight.
Looking backwards, we can always say that anything transmitted over the Clinton e-mail server wasn't a big deal. But at the time they were sent/recieved/stored on an unsecured, unvalidated, e-mail server, no one could say that.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
tennyson wrote:
BTW, does ANYONE know the particulars of what these reported emails are about.
The typical operatives appear to be all over this apparently without knowing themselves. Not exactly surprising. Neither the press or politicians waste an opportunity.
It will be interesting to see just what is involved in these emails and were they received or sent.
At the end of the day, it comes down to this, IMHO: government officials should not be handling government material outside of government Information Technology oversight.
Looking backwards, we can always say that anything transmitted over the Clinton e-mail server wasn't a big deal. But at the time they were sent/recieved/stored on an unsecured, unvalidated, e-mail server, no one could say that.
I certainly do not disagree that it was entirely the wrong thing to do.
I DO want to know (and I hope others do too) just what are the actual document findings. I think it is critical the general public is made aware of the type info thus discovered and its potential impact.
Also, do you know that the server was not secured ? I would expect there was some level of security on the server that even a novice administrator would have put in place. An entirely different topic, but government servers themselves are exposed by inadequate security measures including inadequate security controls over routers and switches.
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Maybe ask General Petraeus what happens when you mishandle classified material and he got off pretty easy.
He was sentenced to serve two years on probation and to pay an $100,000 fine.
Prosecutors agreed to not send Petraeus to jail because the classified information was never released to the public or published in the biography of him that Broadwell wrote.
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Pretty much an apples to oranges comparison