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2/24/2015 3:41 pm  #1


Obama vetoes Keystone XL


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2/24/2015 3:44 pm  #2


Re: Obama vetoes Keystone XL

According to NPR, "Republicans do not appear to have enough votes to override the veto".


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/24/2015 3:58 pm  #3


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Nah they don't. And irony of all this is that evetually KXL will be approved. Just on Obama's timeline and not Congress'.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
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2/24/2015 4:20 pm  #4


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Do we need this pipeline? Especially when one considers the fact that the recent downturn in crude oil pricing has caused several U.S. drillers/frackers to close down their operations to lessen supply with the hopes of boosting the price on this so-called open market.

How will the building of another pipeline to transport Canadian tar sands oil across the country benefit the U.S.?

 

2/24/2015 5:31 pm  #5


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How will the building of another pipeline to transport Canadian tar sands oil across the country benefit the U.S.?  -  rongone

Good question.  Who wants to answer that?

 

2/25/2015 9:37 am  #6


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State Department's Environmental Report Lends Support To Keystone XL Approval
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/31/keystone-environmental-analysis_n_4704906.html

The report, which is the final version of the department's environmental impact statement, found that the pipeline will not significantly increase greenhouse gas emissions -- the biggest issue for the environmental groups that want to see the pipeline rejected.State Department releases Keystone XL final environmental impact statement
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/state-to-release-keystones-final-environmental-impact-statement-friday/2014/01/31/3a9bb25c-8a83-11e3-a5bd-844629433ba3_story.html

Last edited by Common Sense (2/25/2015 9:37 am)


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2/25/2015 9:46 am  #7


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Like most things in Washington, it will become a barganing chip. 

Of course it will eventually be built. The question then it begs is what will be the offsetting agenda that the opposition will use to allow it to pass  ? 


 


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2/25/2015 9:57 am  #8


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Just Fred wrote:

How will the building of another pipeline to transport Canadian tar sands oil across the country benefit the U.S.?  -  rongone

Good question.  Who wants to answer that?

 


Can anyone help with a logical answer to this question?
Yeah, it's a political football, but what is the ultimate benefit to the citizens of the U.S.?

 

2/25/2015 10:15 am  #9


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Simple question, rongone.  No answers so far.  Are all of us missing something here?

 

2/25/2015 10:37 am  #10


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It does NOT benefit us.  The oil is not ours.  It is being pumped to the gulf so it can be shipped to other countries.  We don't get the oil.  The Koch brothers own the lease on the Canadian tar sands and they will make big bucks from this pipeline.  That is why they have bought all these politicians to pass this so they can get richer while we get nothing.  The real clincher is there are things written into the agreement that state if there is a leak or catastrophe, they are not responsible for clean up or compensation for damages their pipeline has caused.  WE are responsible.  We get no benefits from this and the American people are getting screwed by promises that this is a big job created.  It will create only 35 permanent jobs when all is said and done.  This is a bad, bad thing for America.

And to top it off, our legislators have given the power of eminant domain to a foreign COMPANY.....not country, but company.  A foreign company can now come in to this country and take American's land by eminent domain.   I don't like when our government takes citizens' land and I especially don't like it when a foreign company is allowed to do it.

This whole pipeline fiasco is made up of so many bad decisions.  It is mind boggling
that this has gotten so many supporters.

 

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