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Bernie Sanders campaign attempts to woo Trump voters
Smart play or futile effort?
Donald Trump has attracted a somewhat unorthodox foe — Democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders.
Because the 2016 election cycle hasn’t been bizarre enough, we now have a self-professed Democratic-socialist candidate actively attempting to woo supporters away from the Republican frontrunner during primary season.Consider the similarities: both are party rogues, neither is remotely conservative, neither is traditional in any sense, both favor big government solutions, and both have harnessed angry populism and dissatisfaction with political establishments — just to name a few.With New Hampshire’s open primaries up for grabs, Team Sanders is targeting Trump supporters in the hope of picking off a few votes.
Now, Sanders and his aides are making a direct attempt to woo at least some would-be Trump fans away from the dark side of populism, especially in New Hampshire, which has an open primary system that allows even a small number of independent voters to make a big impact.“Bernie’s ability to appeal to a broad swath of voters, and not solely triple-prime Democrats, can make a crucial difference in the Live Free or Die state, where unaffiliated and independent voters play an enormous role,” said Sanders’ New Hampshire communications director Karthik Ganapathy. “Bernie’s message speaks to people who feel that frustration, but instead of channeling it towards hatred and xenophobia, offers voters a forward-looking and hopeful vision for the future.”Both candidate share reliance on independents and those who have not voted before, and both have strong support among similar demographics, like middle-aged white men.
Both have accused his rivals as being in the pocket of special interests, arguing for a systematic overhaul — they just disagree on what the country should look like afterward. And even operatives with rival campaigns privately say they’re surprised at how often they’ve encountered voters who say they like both Trump and Sanders.…“What Trump has done with some success is taken that anger, taken those [economic] fears which are legitimate and converted them into anger against Mexicans, anger against Muslims,” Sanders said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “I think for his working class and middle class supporters, I think we can make the case that if we really want to address the issues that people are concerned about … we need policies that bring us together,” he said.
Sound impossible? Data suggests otherwise.Though Trump has successfully syphoned off some traditional Republican supporters, the majority of his support base is comprised of a very particular kind of Democrat.Research conducted by Civis Analytics and reported by the New York Times confirmed what I’ve long suspected about much of the hard-core Trump support base — they’re Democrats who don’t vote.
(No worry... Trumps support base is Dems who do not vote!)
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If any voters are stupid enough to conflate trump with sanders,,, wow, just wow.
I guess that there are a lot of low information voters around
Last edited by Goose (1/04/2016 4:44 pm)
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I guess that there are a lot of low information voters around
Boy, ain't that the truth.
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Goose wrote:
If any voters are stupid enough to conflate trump with sanders,,, wow, just wow.
I guess that there are a lot of low information voters around
Yes, there are plenty of low information voters on both sides out there.
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Brady Bunch wrote:
Goose wrote:
If any voters are stupid enough to conflate trump with sanders,,, wow, just wow.
I guess that there are a lot of low information voters aroundYes, there are plenty of low information voters on both sides out there.
Such was my point.
Although I don't really excuse one side with the ignorance of the other.
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There's a poll out there of Trump voters that I saw or read a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember where and I can't find it, but I assure you it exists.
The question to Trump voters was, "After Trump, who would be your second choice for President?"
Bernie Sanders got the most support as a second choice.
Goes to speak to the general support those who are outside of the mainstream gaining popularity this election cycle.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
There's a poll out there of Trump voters that I saw or read a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember where and I can't find it, but I assure you it exists.
The question to Trump voters was, "After Trump, who would be your second choice for President?"
Bernie Sanders got the most support as a second choice.
Goes to speak to the general support those who are outside of the mainstream gaining popularity this election cycle.
Fascinating poll, Lager. It means that - to a large part of the electorate - issues don't matter as much much as personality. It means that a candidate's position on issues, AKA what he would do in office is less important than is cultivating an anti-establishment identity.
It is difficult for me to fathom that mentality. I mean, essentially these Trump supporters are saying.
"I like Trump. Trump is pro-life. If Trump doesn't make it I'll pass over the other 10 republicans who feel the same way and vote for Sanders who is pro-choice."
"I like Trump. Trump is against the Iran accord. If Trump doesn't make it I'll pass over the other 10 republicans who feel the same way and vote for Sanders who is pro the accord."
"I like Trump. Trump is against raising the minimum wage. If Trump doesn't make it I'll pass over the other 10 republicans who feel the same way and vote for Sanders who is for raising the wage"
"I like Trump. Trump doesn't believe in climate change. If Trump doesn't make it I'll pass over the other 10 republicans who feel the same way and vote for Sanders who wants legislation to fight climate change."
"I like Trump. Trump wants to expand the war against ISIS. If Trump doesn't make it I'll pass over the other 10 republicans who feel the same way and vote for Sanders who wants to scale back military actions.."
Need I go on?
Clearly these voters are so frustrated that they just want to end the status quo. And whether that takes us left or right, towards war or peace, is of secondary importance.
I find that bizarre. But, personality has long driven politics. I mean, what did Ross Perot offer, really, beyond some folksy one liners about "looking under the hood" and seeing what's wrong with government. Oh yeah, Ross was a way of sticking to to George Bush.
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Doesn't make sense does it?