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Armed protesters take over federal wildlife refuge in Oregon
After the march Saturday, the armed protesters broke into the refuge's unoccupied building and refused to leave.
"We will be here as long as it takes," said Ammon Bundy, a spokesman for the group. "We have no intentions of using force upon anyone, (but) if force is used against us, we would defend ourselves."
Bundy is the 40-year-old son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who drew national attention last year after staging a standoff with federal authorities over a Bureau of Land Management dispute.
Ammon Bundy said the group in Oregon was armed, but said he would not describe it as a militia. Bundy declined to say how many people were occupying the building.
"We are not terrorists," he said. "We are concerned citizens and realize we have to act if we want to pass along anything to our children."
But many were calling the armed protesters a "militia."
"I don't like the militia's methods," local resident Monica McCannon told KTVZ. "They had their rally. Now it's time for them to go home. People are afraid of them."
A U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service spokesperson said the agency and the Bureau of Land Management are aware of the armed protesters.
"While the situation is ongoing, the main concern is employee safety, and we can confirm that no federal staff were in the building at the time of the initial incident," the spokesperson said. "We will continue to monitor the situation."
What the protesters want
When asked what it would take for the armed protesters to leave, Bundy did not offer specifics.
"We are using the wildlife refuge as a place for individuals across the United States to come and assist in helping the people of Harney County claim back their lands and resources," he said.
"The people will need to be able to use the land and resources without fear as free men and women. We know it will take some time."
He did not explicitly call on authorities to commute the prison sentences for the Hammonds, who are scheduled to report to prison on Monday. But he said their case illustrates officials' "abuse" of power.
"Now that people such as the Hammonds are taking a stand and not selling their ranches, they are being prosecuted in their own courts as terrorists and putting them in prison for five years," Bundy said.
He said the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge has taken over the space of 100 ranches since the early 1900s.
"They are continuing to expand the refuge at the expense of the ranchers and miners," Bundy said.
He also said Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, went from one of the state's wealthiest counties to one of the poorest.
CNN has not independently corroborated Bundy's claims.
"I want to emphasis that the American people are wondering why they can't seem to get ahead or why everything is costing more and you are getting less, and that is because the federal government is taking and using the land and resources," Bundy said.
"And if it is continued, it will put the people in poverty."
What the feds say
Acting U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams of Oregon gave a starkly different perspective on the arson case.
His office declined to comment on the situation at the wildlife refuge Saturday, but cited an opinion piece written by Williams in the Burns Times Herald last month defending the federal prosecutors' actions in the Hammonds' case.
"Five years ago, a federal grand jury charged Dwight and Steven Hammond with committing arson on public lands and endangering firefighters," Williams wrote for the newspaper. "Steven Hammond was also found guilty of committing a second arson in 2006."
The prosecutor said witnesses saw the Hammonds illegally slaughter a herd of deer on public land.
"At least seven deer were shot with others limping or running from the scene," Williams wrote.
He said a teenage relative of the Hammonds testified that Steven Hammond gave him a box of matches and told him to start the blaze. "The fires destroyed evidence of the deer slaughter and took about 130 acres of public land out of public use for two years," the prosecutor wrote.
Williams also disputed the notion that the Hammonds were prosecuted as terrorists, like Bundy suggested.
"The jury was neither asked if the Hammonds were terrorists, nor were defendants ever charged with or accused of terrorism," Williams wrote. "Suggesting otherwise is simply flat-out wrong."
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A bit more background on the story.
Oregon ranching case sparks anti-government sentiment
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The father and son of a prominent Oregon ranching family plan to surrender at a California prison next week after a judge ruled they served too little time for setting fires that spread to government lands they leased to graze cattle.
Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. ColeThe two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.
The decision has generated controversy in a remote part of the state where the Hammonds are well-known for their generosity and community contributions. It's also playing into a long-simmering conflict between ranchers and the U.S. government over the use of federal land for cattle grazing.
In particular, the Hammonds' new sentences touched a nerve with far right groups who repudiate federal authority. The son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a standoff with the government over grazing rights, is organizing opposition.In 2014, after the Bureau of Land Management sought to remove Bundy's cattle from public rangeland, armed militiamen confronted federal officials. Bundy stopped paying grazing fees over 20 years ago and owes more than $1 million.
This month, his son Ammon Bundy and a handful of militiamen from other states arrived in Burns, some 60 miles from the Hammond ranch.In an email to supporters, Ammon Bundy criticized the U.S. government for a failed legal process. Federal lawyers prosecuted the Hammonds under an anti-terrorism law that required a five-year minimum sentence, though they have declined to say why.Ammon Bundy wrote that the Hammonds are not terrorists and didn't commit any crimes. He also shamed the Harney County sheriff for not protecting the Hammonds.
The sheriff didn't respond to calls from The Associated Press.Ammon Bundy and other right-wing leaders have called on armed militia around the country to come support the Hammonds. The groups will hold a rally and protest in town Saturday."If what is happening to the Hammonds is allowed, it will set a standard of what these powerful people will do to all of us," Ammon Bundy wrote in an email, referring to the federal government.
The Hammonds have not welcomed the Bundys' help."Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond Family," the Hammonds' lawyer W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Sheriff David Ward.Dwight Hammond said he and his son plan to peacefully report to prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge."We gave our word that's what we would do, and we intend to act on it," he told the AP.Prosecutors said the Hammonds' grazing leases didn't give them exclusive use of the land or permission to burn public property.
The fire charred just under 140 acres.Though the family doesn't want confrontation, Dwight Hammond maintained their case isn't about fires: It's the climax of the government's efforts to take their land at a time when saving endangered species has gained in importance.Dwight Hammond said he and his own father bought the ranch in 1964; the purchase price included several federal grazing allotments — the rights to lease public land for cattle grazing.
But as the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge came to surround the Hammonds' property, the rancher said, the family had to stave off pressure from the federal government to sell the ranch.Over the years, the government chipped away at their grazing allotments, taking some and increasing fees on others, Dwight Hammond said. New federal rules made it harder to renew permits.
After father and son were convicted of the arsons, the government declined to renew their grazing permit. The family is appealing that decision."We paid hard dollars over fifty years ago for the right to graze. It isn't right for them to take it away from us," Dwight Hammond said, adding they've had to rent pastures from other ranchers to keep their cows fed.An attorney for the ranchers, Kendra Mathews, declined to discuss the case. The U.S. attorney's office also wouldn't comment. But in an opinion piece published this month in the Burns Times Herald, Oregon's U.S. attorney, Bill Williams, said the Hammonds received a fair trial and lawful sentences.
Williams said the government has never called the ranchers terrorists, and prosecutors acknowledged they were good people who contributed to their community.Referring to the militia, Williams said: "Any criminal behavior contemplated by those who may object to the court's mandate ... will not be tolerated."As for the Hammonds, they hope to keep the family business going with help from relatives. Maybe, Dwight Hammond said, when his son gets out of prison, "he can still have a family and a ranch to go back to."
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So, the Hammonds are generous arsonists.
OK. I guess that justifies the armed takeover of a building.
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Remember that scene of Bundy riding around the place on his horse protesting government while waving an American flag? Nothing like a group of nutjobs with guns.
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Fred--with the number of them and their weapons when does it happen that these nuts become involved in a shootout with officials. I see it coming, especially now that Trumps has people of this caliber all stirred up.
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These guys are patriots. Leaders of armed militias protecting their constitutional rights against an oppressive government. They are fighting for hard fought rights given to them by that government and they've given their word of how they're going to invoke those rights and they intend to stick by their word by taking necessary actions against that same government. Those actions may include rallies, demonstrations, confronting officials and lawmen with weapons in hand. They are concerned citizens not terrorists. They have no intentions of using force against the government, but if confronted, they intend to defend themselves against unjust federal laws.
What a bunch of hooey. The real American Patriots who are residents of the area have these guys pegged: "I don't like the militia's methods. They had their rally. Now it's time for them to go home. People are afraid of them."
Do these armed, false patriots, who have formed their own self serving militia remind you of any other groups around the world?
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If I am running things, I give those guys one hour to vacate the building. Otherwise, we take care of business Waco style and they don't come out alive.
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"The Hammonds have not welcomed the Bundys' help."Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond Family," the Hammonds' lawyer W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Sheriff David Ward.Dwight Hammond said he and his son plan to peacefully report to prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge."
The Hammond's did not ask for any help from theses guys. They are not from the community and the community does not want them here! They need to leave ASAP!
Two of the guys who are pushing this are going to end up in jail or dead! And maybe get a lot of people killed.
Ryan Payne, an electrician from Montana who had boasted of organizing citizen sniper squads on Bundy Ranch that aimed their weapons at federal agents, and Jon Ritzheimer, an Arizona man that in November had been the subject of FBI concern because of violent rhetoric directed at Muslims.
Dwight Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven, 46, are expected to report for their 5-year sentence in federal prison Monday, KOIN reports. According to the Associated Press, the pair set the fires to prevent the spread of invasive plants and protect their land from wildfires. But the fires they set spread to federal property. They already spent time in prison, but a federal judge ruled that the sentence was too short and thus illegal under anti-terrorism charges they were convicted for.
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flowergirl wrote:
Fred--with the number of them and their weapons when does it happen that these nuts become involved in a shootout with officials. I see it coming, especially now that Trumps has people of this caliber all stirred up.
Look at the people who are involved in this. They have been involved with this stuff way before Trump started running
for office. I know people do not like Trump so now everything he says is going to cause..... you list it.
Oh my!
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Take the place back by force if necessary.