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Bill Kristol: ‘We’ll Have to Start’ New Party If Trump Wins Nomination
On Monday, Weekly Standard editor-in-chief Bill Kristol tweeted out what the rest of the Republican establishment is thinking: better Hillary than Donald. Here’s the tweet:
Crowd-sourcing: Name of the new party we’ll have to start if Trump wins the GOP nomination? Suggestions welcome at editor@weeklystandard.com
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) December 20, 2015
Kristol isn’t alone. As I wrote at Daily Wire today, Politico’s Jeff Greenfield says, “If the operatives I talked with are right, Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run – from the Republicans themselves.” That follows last Thursday’s Politico column from former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman, who compared Trump to Hitler and called him “evil,” and last Wednesday’s Politico column reporting that Jeb Bush’s aides “began looking into the possibility of making a clear break with Trump – potentially with the candidate stating that, if Trump were the nominee, Bush would not support him.”
Last week, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said that former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour “and a lot of the Republican leaders would much rather Hillary Clinton be President of the United States than have Donald Trump represent them as a Republican.” And in November, The Hill reported that “GOP establishment donors have confided to The Hill that for the first time in recent memory, they find themselves contemplating not supporting a Republican nominee for president.”
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Bill Kristol is part of the problem (Establishment Republicans)
The establishment is the reason we have lost the last two presidential elections. Kristol can pound sand!
The usual cast of "establishment" characters will be after trump and it is starting to show.
Trump is destroying any of the establishment candidates. He is at 39% today
Kristol go ahead and find a new name..... you and Karl Rove will be very happy with each other!
The grassroots folks are done and have been done at the presidential election level with the status quo.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Common Sense wrote:
Bill Kristol is part of the problem (Establishment Republicans)
The establishment is the reason we have lost the last two presidential elections. Kristol can pound sand!
The usual cast of "establishment" characters will be after trump and it is starting to show.
Trump is destroying any of the establishment candidates. He is at 39% today
Kristol go ahead and find a new name..... you and Karl Rove will be very happy with each other!
The grassroots folks are done and have been done at the presidential election level with the status quo.
Do you think the GOP can win with a go to the devil attitude towards the establishment wing of their party?
I thought that a big tent was required. I don't see how they win without the conservatives, and hispanic voters,, and,,,
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Wow . . . Never thought I'd see the day that the neocon, right wing, editor of the conservative magazine the Weekly Standard would be labeled an "establishment republican".
But, I guess that shows how much media power Fox 'news', Breitbart, and the like have over a small, but vocal, minority of radical, easily influenced, 'grassroots folks', hungry for a hero in the vein of a big mouthed, pompous, bullying twit to represent their 'merican values.
Give me a break. The HUUUUUGE vast majority of sane voters will not elect Donald Trump.
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More fox news babble? Please get over it. I know they have been number #1 for years but please don't fret over it?
Just don't watch them if it is so upsetting for you.
Who do you dislike more? Trump or Wagner? 
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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I see the GOP nightmare scenario. Trump wins the nomination and kills the GOP ticket from the White House to the State Houses.
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More fox news babble? Please get over it. I know they have been number #1 for years but please don't fret over it?
Just don't watch them if it is so upsetting for you.
Who do you dislike more? Trump or Wagner?
Merry Christmas!
If you don't mind, please stay on topic rather than taunting other posters.
Do you think that the GOP can win without the establishment wing of the party? Do you have any data to support your position that "the establishment" is responsible for losing the last two presidential elections?
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If he is going to ultimately succeed, Donald Trump needs to find a second act.
He's been a master at manipulating the anger many feel towards elites.
OK, the elites deserve it.
Eventually Trump will have to show that he has something better to offer.
Make America Great Again. Cool. How?
I mean, his tax plan seems to favor the elites while ballooning the deficit.
He's going to stare at Putin and Russia starts behaving like we like?
He builds a fence on US territory, and Mexico will pay for it?
You are going to deport 11 million people?
I mean, it's understandable to be frustrated, but I don't think the answer is to blow everything up.
Like that old lady once said, Where's the beef?
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Eugene Robinson, writing in the Washington Post yesterday, writes on the Republican Party: The Party is no longer a coherent political force and the Trump insurgency should be seen as a symptom of the party's disintegration. An odd assessment he says of the party that controls both houses of Congress, 32 governorships and two-thirds of state legislatures. The party's one power structure is its staunch and "sometimes blind" opposition to the President and the Democrats. There are now two Republican Parties, he writes, the party that celebrates immigration as central to the American experience or the one that wants to round up 11 million people living here without papers and kick them out. The party that believes in military intervention or the one that believes strife-torn nations should be rid of their dictators and resolve their own civil wars. It is no longer in step with the views of the U. S. Chamber of Commerce which supports giving the undocumented legal status or the benefits of free trade.
"The GOP electorate has changed; it's whiter, older, less educated and more blue collar than it used to be."
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Eugene Robinson, writing in the Washington Post yesterday, writes on the Republican Party: The Party is no longer a coherent political force and the Trump insurgency should be seen as a symptom of the party's disintegration. An odd assessment he says of the party that controls both houses of Congress, 32 governorships and two-thirds of state legislatures. The party's one power structure is its staunch and "sometimes blind" opposition to the President and the Democrats. There are now two Republican Parties, he writes, the party that celebrates immigration as central to the American experience or the one that wants to round up 11 million people living here without papers and kick them out. The party that believes in military intervention or the one that believes strife-torn nations should be rid of their dictators and resolve their own civil wars. It is no longer in step with the views of the U. S. Chamber of Commerce which supports giving the undocumented legal status or the benefits of free trade.
"The GOP electorate has changed; it's whiter, older, less educated and more blue collar than it used to be."
Good post. I don't fully understand what is going on. But, the current internal politics of the GOP are fascinating.
And important, I think.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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