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2/22/2015 9:14 am  #1


Rudy's Not Giving Up

We're now three days into Rudy Giuliani's "President Obama Doesn't Love America" press tour, and the former New York City mayor is not slowing down.To recap: On Wednesday night, Giuliani declared, "I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America ... He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country."

Since then,
he has repeatedly denied[/url] that [url=http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/giulianis-smear-wasnt-racist-what-was-it.html]his words were a racist dog whistle[/url], [url=http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/02/19/giuliani-obama-had-a-white-mother-so-im-not-a-racist/]telling the New York Times, "Some people thought it was racist — I thought that was a joke, since he was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools, and most of this he learned from white people."

Doubling down on his statements, Giuliani went on to attribute the president's supposed hatred of America to "socialism," "possibly anti-colonialism," and an elementary-school-aged Obama's introduction to Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis.

 

2/22/2015 9:20 am  #2


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This is the last person in the world to be talking about "love", how people are brought up and other values considering the shameful, sordid  spectacle he made by moving his mistress into the govornor's mansion while his wife and children lived there.   We won't soon forget that.

Isn't there anyone around him that will tell him to STFU?  If there was, he probably wouldn't listen anyway.  Such an egomaniac....

 

2/22/2015 9:22 am  #3


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I simply cannot believe that - six years into this presidency - people still think that they can get anywhere with this "Obama isn't one of us" crap.
This country has real problems, and we need people who love America enough to give up this bullshit, roll up their sleeves and work on these issues.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/22/2015 10:06 am  #4


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So, Rudy says: "He wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country."

Whatever that means. But later, trying to explain away his stupid statement says:
"He was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools, and most of this he learned from white people."

Aside from the fact that the second statement is blatantly racist, it seems to contradict the first statement. Either Rudy was brought up in an African-American household and neighborhood, or he has dug himself a hole he can't get out of, but just doesn't realize it yet.

 

2/22/2015 10:22 am  #5


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The one sure thing is the Cable news 24 hour cycle loves this!
They continue to stoke the fire and try their best to keep the pot
stirred. The right.... he's does not love America! The left.... that's racist!    Explosion......................
Around and around we go!
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/22/2015 10:58 am  #6


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It would probably blow away, Common, but it seems Rudy keeps surfacing and doing a pretty good job stirring new pots by himself everyday.

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2/22/2015 11:01 am  #7


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Yea, you can blame the 24 hour news cycle, the media or whatever, but Rudy really did say what he said.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/22/2015 11:08 am  #8


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Goose wrote:

Yea, you can blame the 24 hour news cycle, the media or whatever, but Rudy really did say what he said.

My sentiments exactly. The only person stoking the fire is really Rudy himself. It would have been easy to back out of this statement, but he is the one continuing to pour gas on the fire. 



 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

2/22/2015 11:21 am  #9


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For the life of me why in the world are we having this conversation?  It is completely meaningless and serves no purpurpose whatsoever but to keep certain "news" people employed. 

 

2/22/2015 11:41 am  #10


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I would disagree, Azalea. RG is the former mayor of one of the country's most preeminent cities. He bacame a national icon after 911. When RG says something outrageous about the President of the United States, it is news. I know that the current state of the media is going to ride this thing for all it's worth. That's the way it is.

But, before condemning the media, I will direct my ire at the guy who made the outrageous remarks rather than the guys reporting on the outrageous remarks.

It also raises an important question. Is this something that the GOP believes?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

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