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12/08/2015 3:35 pm  #1


Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

So, Donald Trump defends his plan to bar Muslims from the United States by invoking the internment of Japanes Americans during WWII. An action that violated the basic rights of over 100,000 American citizens while preventing exactly zero acts of sabotage or terror. And was one of our nation's darkest hours of the soul.

Smart move, Donnie. 


Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

As denunciations rained down on him from Washington and around the world, Donald J. Trump on Tuesday defended his call to block all Muslims from entering the United States, casting it as a temporary move in response to Islamic State terrorism and invoking President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s actions toward Japanese, German and Italian aliens during World War II as precedent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-muslims.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

12/08/2015 3:45 pm  #2


Re: Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

He gets worser and worser and worser as each day goes by.

 

12/08/2015 4:05 pm  #3


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The thing is, Trump doesn't care what his detractors say. He can make just about any uninformed, ridiculously stupid comment and his fervent supporters will leap out of their seats, fists pumping, waving Trump signs, and screaming their approval. Trump knows this and just keeps feeding the fear fires. He doesn't need nor want to decree a solid plan devised to carry out his emotional rants. If he did slip up and provide some framework for one of his hair brained schemes, some of his supporters might actually expect him to put it into action, and he hasn't shown himself to be the kind of person that could follow through on that. His agenda is to rely on purely emotional issues and keep any substantive plans to solve problems hugely vague. The Republican Party members are the ones that are frightened. They are frightened on at least two levels: 1) That Trump actually wins enough delegates to secure the party's nomination. 2) Trump gets pissed off at the party because they don't support him to his satisfaction and he pulls out, ignoring his 'agreement' and runs as a third party candidate. If either scenario comes to fruition, the Republican Party loses the presidential election in 2016.

Last edited by Rongone (12/08/2015 4:09 pm)

 

12/08/2015 4:13 pm  #4


Re: Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

Trump as a third party candidate?
Pinch me, I'm dreaming!


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12/08/2015 5:10 pm  #5


Re: Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

Trump as a third party candidate?

Oh please, if there is a God, let that happen.
 

 

12/08/2015 9:26 pm  #6


Re: Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

The Philadelphia Daily News had the best front page cover today


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

12/08/2015 10:07 pm  #7


Re: Donald Trump, Under Fire, Defends Call to Block Muslims

On a more serious note, I wanted to pass along an interesting thing that happened at work today that is somewhat Trump/Muslim related.

I'm an IT consultant. For the past year, I have been working on an IT support consolidation and outsourcing project for one of my clients. We recently decided on our new vendors and are in the contracting phase of the project.

So I'm in an afternoon long meeting with one of the vendors. A global IT managed service provider based out of India who has clients in over a hundred countries around the world. We're reviewing and discussing and negotiating the first draft of the proposed contract. Most of it very dry and boring. Until we get to one specific line in the document.

We get to the service level agreement section. Here, basically the vendor and my client agree on how we'll evaluate vendor performance and so forth. Then we get to the section of "exceptions" where the vendor cannot be held accountable to service levels. Things such as if the client's network went down and they couldn't access systems, or needed client resources weren't available, or the Help Desk mis-routed a ticket. And then there was this line:

i.    Miscellaneous items, such as, weather and political conditions that are out of control of Vendor

I've negotiated a fair amount of contracts in my time and I've seen the "Act of God" clause used often, but never saw the term "political conditions" in a contract I've worked on.

I said to the vendor's rep, "what do you call that, the "President Trump clause?"

And as I said that, it hit me, everyone in the room from the vendor side is Indian or Pakistani. And some resource (i.e. people) would be coming from India to work at the client site. 

And the vendor said, "Yes, our legal counsel asked us to include this in new contracts this week upon hearing some of the news in the U.S. I can tell you that the term, 'political conditions' is only used in countries where our company is working and there's a serious chance of a coup d'tat.

So that's what we've come to folks. .Businesses are now looking at the United States and are saying to themselves, "we may not be able to do business there because one of their leading presidential contenders could block our employees from entering the country because of their religion".

How anyone can seriously support DJT is beyond me.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

12/08/2015 10:44 pm  #8


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Has anyone done a demographics analysis of Trump's followers?  I'd be very curious of their educational level although we can probably guess for some.

 

12/09/2015 8:43 am  #9


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And as I said that, it hit me, everyone in the room from the vendor side is Indian or Pakistani. And some resource (i.e. people) would be coming from India to work at the client site. 

And the vendor said, "Yes, our legal counsel asked us to include this in new contracts this week upon hearing some of the news in the U.S. I can tell you that the term, 'political conditions' is only used in countries where our company is working and there's a serious chance of a coup d'tat.


That about sums it up, doesn't it?  What a disaster this guy would be as president.
 

 

12/09/2015 10:15 am  #10


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I don't think we need worry. The American people are better than this. When the time comes to vote the majority will do the right thing.


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