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12/15/2016 3:02 pm  #1


Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Thursday falsely stated that the United States government had waited until after the election “to complain” that Russia had hacked into American political organizations to interfere in the presidential race. But in doing so, he raised substantive questions about the Obama administration’s slow response to a cyberattack that proved successful.

In another of his provocative, early-morning posts on Twitter, Mr. Trump cast doubt on the government’s conclusion that Russia had carried out the hacking with the approval of the highest levels of the Kremlin, suggesting instead that the finding was a case of postelection sour grapes by President Obama.

“Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?” Mr. Trump asked, ignoring the fact that the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., had formally blamed Russia on Oct. 7 — a full month before Election Day — for the cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee and other organizations. In September, meeting privately in China with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, Mr. Obama not only complained, the White House says, but warned him of consequences if the Russian activity did not halt.

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12/15/2016 3:39 pm  #2


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

I guess Trump should have done something to protect the United States computer systems from any hacking.
Wait that something Obama should have done. Another fail...............


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

12/15/2016 5:53 pm  #3


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

Trump unfortunately makes a LOT of claims that are false which is why he generally hates the press. 

 


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12/16/2016 4:31 pm  #4


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

Common Sense wrote:

I guess Trump should have done something to protect the United States computer systems from any hacking.
Wait that something Obama should have done. Another fail...............

You seem to be concerned with two things only in regards to Russian hacking. First, denying that it occurred. And failing that, blaming it on Obama.
If foreign powers meddle in our elections it will hurt us all.
We need to understand it, and combat it. Don't be short-sighted. Left unchecked, someday a foreign power will smear someone you actually like.
You have to get out of this hyper-partisan mindset, and things will become obvious
 


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12/16/2016 5:52 pm  #5


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

You seem to be concerned with two things only in regards to Russian hacking. First, denying that it occurred. And failing that, blaming it on Obama.

This observation is correct.  Common, you're not looking at the big picture here and implications for the future of elections in America.  You gotta take off that team jersey once in a while.
 

 

12/16/2016 7:55 pm  #6


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

Just Fred wrote:

You seem to be concerned with two things only in regards to Russian hacking. First, denying that it occurred. And failing that, blaming it on Obama.

This observation is correct.  Common, you're not looking at the big picture here and implications for the future of elections in America.  You gotta take off that team jersey once in a while.
 

For sure, he cannot have it BOTH ways. Seems to be just political posturing. 

In addition, it really ignores the actual topic. 
 

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12/16/2016 8:48 pm  #7


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

The FBI now states that it agrees with the CIA and NSA.
It was the Russians. And they were trying to tip the scales towards trump.
We have a real mess on our hands.

I respectfully suggest, The Team Jersey needs to be Red, White, AND Blue

Last edited by Goose (12/16/2016 9:16 pm)


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12/16/2016 11:13 pm  #8


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

Goose wrote:

The FBI now states that it agrees with the CIA and NSA.
It was the Russians. And they were trying to tip the scales towards trump.
We have a real mess on our hands.

I respectfully suggest, The Team Jersey needs to be Red, White, AND Blue

Well, in less than one month they will have the President THEY wanted in office. 

Let's hope it WASN'T for good reason. 

I support the UNITED States. Let's ALL of us keep the focus on UNITED. 


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12/17/2016 9:17 am  #9


Re: Trump Falsely Says U.S. Claim of Russian Hacking Came After Election

I wonder what options we have to retaliate and to prevent this from happening again.
Or, if our new leadership has any interest at all in doing so.


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