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10/06/2016 8:10 am  #1


Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

 Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Speaking at a Democratic rally in Flint, Michigan, the former president ripped into the Affordable Care Act (ACA) for flooding the health care insurance market and causing premiums to rise for middle-class Americans who do not qualify for subsidies.



"So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.

On Tuesday, he tried to clean up his criticism.

Big time back peddling.............. Bill was taken to the wood shed!


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

10/06/2016 8:12 am  #2


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world'




 

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 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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10/06/2016 9:27 am  #3


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Stick foot in mouth--or, in this instance--both feet.

 

10/06/2016 9:29 am  #4


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Well, the problems with increasing premiums for some is an issue that we need to address.
No sense in ignoring the obvious.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

10/06/2016 9:43 am  #5


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

I think Bill Clinton has always favored a 'medicare-for-all' approach, or a least a public option.  His wife as first lady championed universal healthcare.  The problem with the ACA from my perspective is the program is still run as a for-profit business.  I'm guessing the Clinton's would agree with me on this.

 

10/06/2016 9:52 am  #6


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Clinton's point is spot on. Despite "fair and balanced" editing of his statement, if you listen carefully, he puts the onus on shortcomings realized by ACA squarely on the shoulders of greedy health insurance companies. These are the corporations that are pulling out of markets in order to drive up costs and doing everything they can to destroy the system regardless of the fact that this action jeopardizes the healthcare of millions of Americans. Their interest is profit margins and not the secure healthcare of the majority of citizens.

 

10/06/2016 10:02 am  #7


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Obamacare like Medicare has problems. Obamacare's are short term while Medicare is longer term. BOTH need overhauls to protect those that they serve. 

We are a nation that is woefully behind most of the rest of the advanced nations in providing health care for all of its citizens. 

Unfortunately it is viewed as a political football here in the US. At least the Dems have tried to tackle the issue. The Republicans thus far have little if anything to offer to forward health care for all that is meaningful.


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

10/06/2016 10:16 am  #8


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

Clinton's assessment of the issues with the ACA for the middle class was spot on and something I wrote about back when we had to enter the exchange because my employer didn't offer insurance for family and my wife was a stay at home mom.

Our premiums doubled, which was not good, but much worse was that the coverage was far worse than what we had before the ACA and the options were so much more limited because of the increased regulation over what had to be in a plan.

That part of it needs to be fixed and has needed to be fixed since the onset of the law.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

10/06/2016 11:48 am  #9


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

TheLagerLad wrote:

Clinton's assessment of the issues with the ACA for the middle class was spot on and something I wrote about back when we had to enter the exchange because my employer didn't offer insurance for family and my wife was a stay at home mom.

Our premiums doubled, which was not good, but much worse was that the coverage was far worse than what we had before the ACA and the options were so much more limited because of the increased regulation over what had to be in a plan.

That part of it needs to be fixed and has needed to be fixed since the onset of the law.

I would just add that our WHOLE health care system needs to be looked at and overhauled. It is not just the ACA, but Medicare, AND private insurance that have real issues of cost containment (actually NOT being contained). The finger needs to be pointed at ALL of them. 


 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

10/06/2016 5:19 pm  #10


Re: Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world

The real purpose of the ACA is to create such frustration and anger at the insurance industry that labor and management alike will beg Congress to enact a single-payer Canukistan type health care system.

 


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